Isnt the adaptive sizing only relevant to much larger memory 
configurations (Im running this JVM with a max heap of 1-1.5Gb?
Pete





"Angus Mezick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Wouldn't AdaptiveSizePolicy help? (saves you the work of Java Heap usage
analyzing :-) :

I use this on my 2x proc machine.

-XX:UseParallelGC -XX:+UseAdaptiveSizePolicy

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> 
> Ah sorry I should really have said that I was focusing 
> specifically on 
> memory managment; general performance tuning is a completely 
> different 
> matter in which I do agree with you!  On the memory front 
> however I would 
> stand by the fact that most tomcat webapps (big or small) 
> would benefit 
> from a change in the default JVM config.
> 
> Anyway, have sorted out my problem now (by doing just that as 
> well as a GC 
> change) and performance is 10x better!
> 
> cheers
> Pete
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 04/08/2003 14:45
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> Howdy,
> 
> >Well not really; we know that we are running Tomcat, a web container
> which
> >has its own (fixed) characteristics.  It is a server side 
> app which is
> >processing non state based transactions which are thus highly like to
> >involve a lot of objects being created and destroyed without too many
> >hanging around for long;  the details of the webapp, unless it is
> highly
> >unusual, are likely not to matter particularly.  This is a rule of
> thumb
> >not an exact science and the vast majority of people who run Tomcat
> would
> >benefit from running in such a configuration (or playing 
> with it to see
> >what the effects were) 
> 
> I disagree ;)
> 
> Every time I've tuned a webapp for pay, both transactional 
> and not, both
> full J2EE and "just" servlets/JSPs, the above has been false.  The
> webapp's specific implementation matters far more (typically 
> 3-4 orders
> of magnitude) than the container implementation, especially 
> for a mature
> container which has been tuned repetitively and carefully over time.
> It's precisely because of this, and because as you say performance
> tuning is not a science, that a rule of thumb is as likely to 
> hurt as it
> is to help if blindly applied.
> 
> > read Sun's own tuning documentation and you will
> >see the default settings are not said to be suitable for the majority
> of
> >server apps.
> 
> I appreciate the pointer - I used to help write them ;)
> 
> Good luck, however, as it's always YMMV with these things.
> 
> Yoav Shapira
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