Count me in.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aras
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 7:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbies UNITE!
Thanks Karl for a very eloquent albeit terse reason for belonging to the
group.
Let me make a few things clear.
1. The Newbies UNITE TUG was started because email lists are not the ideal
way
of learning a new technology. I've been coding for almost twenty years and
from my experience User Groups are the best
way to get determined users up to speed quickly.
2. User Groups also allow topic branching that could never be tolerated in
a
mailing list. Could you imagine sharing emails on this list that went from
TomCat to Java Math Classes to developing financial
derivatives code. It doesn't work on an email list. Lists have to be
specific.
3. We have five,people on the NEWBIE TUG so far (soon to be fifteen). If
we
can lessen the amount of usual posts, thus sparing some of the more
experienced
users, that's a good thing.
Lastly, This is to the folks who already agreed with the NEWBIE TUG
concept.
Thanks. From reading your emails, it seems like we've got some motivated
people going into this thing.
If your a newbie and want to share and learn, JOIN our TUG.
Lastly, I don't want any flame stuff around here. If you don't want to
join
or think we're crazy, please don't bash the concept. I'll tell you a thing
or
two about user groups. People have started companies from inside UGs,
people
have gotten friends from belonging to UGs, users in groups have even gotten
married. It's an import concept in the software development industry.
While I was composing this post Ashant posted and I do need to add this
final
note:
Ashant does bring up a good point that should be addressed by our Virtual
TUG.
At some point, we should ask an experienced TomCat developer or User to join
or
at least give us some guidance.
Best Regards,
steve
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> Hi,
>
> I guess a newbie group would be handy, I am a newbie to the apache (and
the
> overall open source) community myself.
>
> But I must say that I've been quite happy with this group. The novice
> questions I have get answered quickly (and often from different points of
> view). I'm not sure if the q's would be answered so fast and so well on a
> newbie group, makes me ask what would be the point of a new group of
> predominantly novice users?
>
> A doc's group, though, would be a different thing. I guess that becomes an
> essential for the long run.
>
> Ashant
>
> >From: "Adam Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Newbies UNITE!
> >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:54:00 -0600
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Maybe it would be better and a hell of a lot simpler to form a
> >"documentation group" to get the docs done. Then everyone could use them
> >and
> >live happily ever after.
> >
> >Come to think of it, who is responsible for the tomcat/mod_jk docs atm?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Adam.
> >
> >----
> >Adam Fowler
> >Second year Computer Science undergraduate
> >University of Wales, Aberystwyth
> >Carroll College, WI, USA(2000-2001)
> >web: http://gucciboy.dyndns.org/aff9
> >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >"Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end"
> >----
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aras
> >Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 4:40 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Newbies UNITE!
> >
> >
> >I admit it, I'm a ... newbie. It makes me ill having to admit that
> >considering
> >I've been coding for almost twenty years. Old dogs new tricks.
> >
> >Here's the deal.
> >
> >I've been trying to use TomCat for about a month. That time isn't work
> >hours
> >because I'm doing this at night (2-3 hours per). Anyway, I've been on
this
> >list for all that time and have seen literally thousands of emails. Most
> >of
> >them being in the newbie variety.
> >
> >Here's what I'm thinking. If there are ten to fifteen newbies out there
> >who
> >are in somewhat of my situation, let's join forces and kick this thing in
> >the
> >butt. Now, I would imagine if your using TomCat 8 HR/Day (meaning "it's
> >your
> >job"), you'll be going too fast for us. You might want to stick to this
> >list.
> >
> >We need the ability to exchange massive amount of information.
Everything
> >from
> >e-mail to chat. In fact, if you have any communications ideas I'm
willing
> >to
> >listen. I guess it would be almost like a TUG (TomCat User Group) except
> >we
> >won't have any experts. We'll be able to use tomcat-user list for the
> >"expert"
> >type questions. I'd like us to develop "our own" How-To's and eventually
,
> >if
> >they turn out correct, submit them to the project.
> >
> >Reply directly to me and include to this list if you'd like
> >
> >
> >The time is now.
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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