Except with form based auth, you want the look at feel to be part of the
application?  

What reasons did you hear? :-)

Whilst not knowing the full reasons, it would be nice if there was some
config switch to control this, other wise it increases application
maintainence overhead if you want to change the look and feel.

I'll see if I can find anything in the tc5 release notes on this.

Thanks again
Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 April 2004 13:13
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: tomcat 4 vs 5 form based container auth & filters

AFAIK it has something to do with providing a clean seperation between 
the authentication (tomcat) and the application (your filter).

I think there were probably several reasons though for it, which 
outweighed the reasons against, and I have heard a few of them.


Adam

On 04/12/2004 01:50 PM Martin Alley wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> Why do you think this behaviour changed from tomcat4 ?
> 
> I haven't gone into the full architecture of sitemesh, as yet, but I
> know it includes a filter.
> 
> Martin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 12 April 2004 11:26
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: tomcat 4 vs 5 form based container auth & filters
> 
> Yes your observations are correct. It's my understanding that filters 
> are not invoked until after authentication. i.e. after the form-based 
> login.
> 
> I have no experience of site-mesh, but it seems a bit weird anyway to 
> put decorations on a page via a filter - surely you should be 
> encapsulating that sort of stuff in a JSP or taglib?
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 04/12/2004 11:02 AM Martin Alley wrote:
> 
>>Can anyone comment on this?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Martin
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Martin Alley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>Sent: 09 April 2004 09:53
>>To: Tomcat Users List
>>Subject: tomcat 4 vs 5 form based container auth & filters
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Initial observation indicates that filters get executed when a form
> 
> for
> 
>>form based container auth is served - under tomcat 4, but not under
>>tomcat 5. 
>>
>>I'm using sitemesh.  The decorations go on the form based login page
>>under tomcat 4, but not under tomcat 5. 
>>
>>I need to do more research, but can any one add to this?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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