Thanks for the info Ben.  The only counter argument I have is
"...$CATALINA_BASE is for instance specific information...".  Making a
datasource reference available to a single instance would imply
CATALINA_BASE.  ALL Tomcat instances would imply CATALINA_HOME.  It's a
picky point and maybe I misunderstand the use of CATALINA_BASE.

To me CATALINA_HOME is the a basic installation and CATALINA_BASE is the
fully configured instance (including shared resources).  Not every instance
based off a "shared tomcat installation" would use the same resources.
Dtasources would be specific to individual instances.

Cheers,

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Armintor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 May 2004 14:03
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Tomcat 5: Location of 3rd party JNDI datasource jars in
$CATALINA _HOME/common/lib


If a class needs to be accessed by both server components and web apps, it
must be in the common classloader.  The classes in the common class loader
are all in $CATALINA_HOME.  $CATALINA_BASE is for instance specific
information, and the shared class loader is for classes that only need to be
available to web apps (not server components); all $CATALINA_BASEs share the
same server classes.  The unpredictable behavior mentioned is that the
classloaders that web apps use do not necessarily delegate to their parents
(ie, by default they prioritize the local version of a class), which means
you might get nasty class definition errors if you put copies of the same
classes in, say, shared/lib and server/lib.

Benjamin J. Armintor
Systems Analyst
ITS-Systems: Mainframe Group
University of Texas - Austin
tele: (512) 232-6562
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


-----Original Message-----
From: CARROLL, Chris, FM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:54 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Tomcat 5: Location of 3rd party JNDI datasource jars in $CATALINA
_HOME/common/lib



Hi all,

This probably a simple question but I cannot find any answer to this in the
FAQ or buglist.  Why is it that the required jars for 3rd party JNDI
datasource (such as JDBC pools) have to be placed in
$CATALINA_HOME/common/lib?  Why does the Tomcat instance not use
$CATALINA_BASE/[common|shared]/lib instead?  I've tried various different
ways but the only one that works is the CATALINA_HOME approach.

>From the JNDI Datasource HOW-TO:
"NOTE:  Third Party drivers should be in jarfiles, not zipfiles. Tomcat only
adds $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib/*.jar to the classpath. 
NOTE: Do not install these jarfiles in your /WEB-INF/lib, or
$JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext, or anywhere else. You will experience problems if
you install them anyplace other than $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib."

There may be something blindingly obvious that I am missing here but it
seems to mean that you can only have a partially shared tomcat installation.
Resource jars from the different instances have to be placed in the
CATALINA_HOME "common" area somewhat negating the benefits of using a
separate server via CATALINA_BASE.

Cheer,

Chris Carroll


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