I am not closed minded.  You got to give me some credit for opening myself up to JSTL 
and EL in the first place.  And about C++ - I like it, but I use it only because I 
have to use it.  What I DON'T like about it is:

Huge file sizes
100% guaranteed memory leaks
Classes = complicated structs

I'd switch from C++ to C in a flash.


-----Original Message-----
From: SH Solutions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 2:36 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worst things to ever 
happen to mankind

Hi

> After getting convinced to try JSTL, I learned the following things:

..

Having read points 1-6, I thought, there must be a truth in your remarks.
(I did'nt use JSTL or EL yet, but I am about to try.)

But then I got to:

> Why was C++ invented?  To give programmers jobs.  No other reason
whatsoever, C does whatever C++ does just as good, and better. 

At that point, you just showed to be very closed-minded.
(C++ does have an accurate object model, which improves a lot. Yes, you can
do similar things with macros, but cumbersomely. From your point of view, go
ahead and programm assembly code. Believe me, it dies whatever C does just
as good, and better.)

No more trusting any of your remarks...

Regards,
  Steffen


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