Hi,

After reading this mail last night I found a shop in Dublin which had the
book in stock. I raced into town after work to get there before the shop
closed and got there 5 minutes before closing.

I was so relieved and when I saw the book on the shelf I was well pleased.
Only when I opened it to take a look did I realise the true extent of what
you meant by "jokes, cartoons and fill in the blanks pages". It looks more
like a children's nursery rhyme book than a Java Certification book!

I just put it back on the shelf and walked back out of the shop :-(

Thanks, but no thanks, I'll be waiting until January.

Andoni.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Januski, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.jakarta.tomcat.user
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] SCWCD Exam 1.4


> I'm part way through the Head First book. I really didn't like Head First
> Java though it got rave reviews when it came out. And I did like the first
> version of the Manning SCWCD book.
>
> That said I'm finding the Head First Servlets and JSP book enjoyable,
though
> I've only read the first 150 pages or so. The authors are from
> www.javaranch.com and I'm sure you can get plenty of additional
information
> there. Of course a lot of fans of the Head First books hang out there too.
>
> Whether you could actually use it for certification I'm not sure. I think
> that you probably could based on what I've read so far because it strives
to
> get you to understand servlets, jsp and everything connected with them on
a
> basic level. It does so with jokes, cartoons, fill in the blank pages,
etc.
> I'm sure a lot of people will hate this manner of learning just as others
> can't stand the drier approach of the Manning book. My feeling is that if
> you are not someone who gets offended by jokey material that you can read
> this book and learn enough to pass the exam, esp. if you also read the
specs
> as the book suggests. But take this with a grain of salt as I've not taken
> the 1.4 exam and I'm only 1/8 of the way through the book.
>
> If you like your books serious though, then steer very clear.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ken
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:57 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: [OT] SCWCD Exam 1.4
>
>
> I'd be completely remiss in not mentioning that Manning is putting out a
> second edition of it's SCWCD study guide.  The second edition has been
> updated for the new exam.
>
> Manning's ISBN is 1932394389 (that's the one scheduled for January)
>
> HeadFirst is 0596005407  (the one out now)
>
> both of them cover the new exam.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:49 AM
> > To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> > Subject: RE: [OT] SCWCD Exam 1.4
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:25 AM
> > > To: Tomcat Users List
> > > Subject: RE: [OT] SCWCD Exam 1.4
> > >
> > >
> > > The one you found "Head First Servlets and JSP" appears to me
> > > not to be a dedicated exam guide. I think the only reason it
> >
> > Not sure what copy you're looking at.  Mine has a black bar
> > across the top that say "... Study Guide"
> >
> > The subtitle of the book is "Passing the Sun Certified Web
> > Component Developer Exam"
> >
> > and it mentions on the cover that it is "Written by the
> > co-developers of the real SCWCD exam for J2EE 1.4".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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