Since the addition of the query does not add to the time then using a connection pool will return your speed to normal. You may wish to dive into the connection issue and determine what is causing it to be so slow to connect. IE put a sniffer on the line and see what is going back and forth. It could also be in the drivers or a number of other issues.

There may be some parameters on the connection that will give you a faster connect time.

At this point I think you are down to two choices:

1. Use pooling to eliminate the connection lag time(that's what it was developed for in the first place).

2. Try different drivers and/or parameters to speed up the connect time.

Doug


----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles P. Killmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS



I tried pinging the server and responses are all <1ms. I have also tried without a DB Connection, Fast, with a DB Connection and no query, slow, and with a DB Connection and with a query, just as slow.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Randall Svancara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:25 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS

Try pinging the server with Microsoft SQL Server from the server running
tomcat.  You might use a traceroute to see where the network bottleneck
may exist.

What are your ping times.  Are you experiencing network latency?  Are
you going through a Firewall?  I am using JTDS and I have not
experienced any problems with it.

Randall



-----Original Message-----
From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:57 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS

I tried setting that parameter to false and still the same slow issue.
The fields in the database are all char or varchar.  No unicode.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Cardona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:44 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS

Charles P. Killmer wrote:

Thanks.  I had already done this but maybe not communicated them as
concisely.

Thanks
Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Parsons Technical Services
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS

Trying a few test should help you narrow things down a bit.

1. Run without DB connection. (Done  runs fast)

2. Run with a DB connect but no query. (Done runs slow)

3. Run with a simple query and do nothing with it.

4. Run with a simple query and post results in page. Only move forward
through result set.

5. Run with a simple query and post results in page. Move around in the

result set (Only if you do this in your page).

At some point in these test you should see a dramatic jump in the
response time. If it is a steady climb, then you may have multiple
issues.

Report back what you find and we'll make suggestions from there.

Doug


----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles P. Killmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:23 AM Subject: RE: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS


Could this speed issue be caused by a poor setup? When I remove the database connection from my code, the pages run fast. Though I obviously need the database portion of the code in there.

Thanks
Charles


-----Original Message----- From: David Boyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:05 AM To: [email protected]; Charles P. Killmer Subject: RE: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS

You could try using something like jProfiler to see where the
bottleneck is.

I don't see anything unusual in your code example, although it looks
like the only thing it does is create the connection. I use jTDS and it

works fine without doing anything exceptional.





[EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/03 8:55 am >>>



This is some representative code that is being very slow.


import java.sql.*;


public class SomeClass {

  public Connection conn;

public int ID;

public String Name;

public String Address;

public String City;

public String OtherStuff;


public SomeClass() throws Exception {

      try {

          Class.forName(net.sourceforge.jtds.jdbc.Driver);

      } catch (ClassNotFoundException ex) {

      }

      try {

          conn =

DriverManager.getConnection(jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://111.222.333.444:1433/

someDB;user=someuser;password=somepassword);

      } catch (Exception e) {

          throw e;

      }

  }


public int Audit() throws Exception {

    return 5;

 }


public ResultSet GetData() throws Exception {

    ResultSet rs = null;

    return rs;

 }


public int DeleteSomething() throws Exception {

    return 2;

 }

}


I don't have anything special in any XML files. I will try to make my

code work like yours is.  But if someone has an idea why the way I have

it written is slow, I would love to hear it.


Thank You

Charles


-----Original Message-----

From: Randall Svancara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:20 AM

To: Tomcat Users List

Subject: RE: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS


I have been using JTDS with SQL Server 2000 in conjunction with Tomcat

without any problems.  Perhaps if you post some your database
connection


code, someone could provide you with assistance. You might also try

posting to the JTDS Mailing list.  Are you using Database Connection

Pooling (DBCP)??


I am including an example the code I use to access a stored procedure on


SQL Server 2000 using DBCP.


/* Here are the things I import */

import java.sql.Connection;

import java.sql.Statement;

import java.sql.ResultSet;

import java.sql.SQLException;

import javax.naming.*;

import javax.sql.*;



Public class SomeClass{



* A public class that returns an Applicant object

* @return the applicant as applicant

*/

public Applicant SomeApplicantMethod(){

      Applicant app = new Applicant();

      Connection conn = null;

      Statement stmt = null;

      ResultSet rst = null;



      try{

          Context ctx = new InitialContext();     /* Declare initial

context */

          if(ctx == null ){

              logger.error(Error creating new context for some

reason);

              throw new Exception(No context);

          }

          /* Throw an exception if it is null */

          DataSource ds =

(DataSource)ctx.lookup(java:comp/env/jdbc/summitexec);



          conn = ds.getConnection();



          if(conn != null)  {



              stmt = conn.createStatement();



              rst = stmt.executeQuery(sp_SelectApplicant +

canidateid);



              while(rst.next()){


// Add result set to applicant object,

NOT SHOWN HERE!!!


}




//Make sure you close everything, else you end up

with object leaks....

              if(stmt != null){

                  stmt.close();

              }



              if(rst != null){

                  rst.close();

              }



              if(conn != null){

                  conn.close();

              }

          }

      }catch(Exception E){

          logger.error(EXCEPTION ERROR Getting Applicant: +

E.toString());

      } finally{



          // Close out of any open connections if they exist, this is

important

          // in order to release resources for connection pooling

          try{

              if(stmt != null){

                  stmt.close();

                  stmt=null;

              }

          }catch(SQLException E){}



          try{

              if(rst != null) {

                  rst.close();

                  rst = null;

              }

          }catch(SQLException E){}



          try{

              if(conn != null) {

                  conn.close();

                  conn = null;

              }

          }catch(SQLException E){}

      }


}

}



This is the quirky part about Tomcat, in version 5.0 or ealier, I have

to use this xml code in my webapp context file for DBCP.


<Resource name=jdbc/summitexec auth=Container

type=javax.sql.DataSource />

<ResourceParams name=jdbc/summitexec>

  <parameter>

      <name>factory</name>


<value>org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory</value>

  </parameter>

<parameter>

<name>url</name>


<value>jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://192.168.0.2:1433/summitexec;User=someuser; P


assword=somepassword</value>

</parameter>

<parameter>

<name>driverClassName</name>

<value>net.sourceforge.jtds.jdbc.Driver</value>

</parameter>

 <parameter>

<name>user</name>

<value>someuser</value>

</parameter>

<parameter>

<name>password</name>

<value>somepassword</value>

</parameter>

</ResourceParams>


In 5.5 I have to use this xml for DBCP. If someone could provide

details why this is, I would appreciate it.


<Resource name=jdbc/summitexec

                auth=Container

                type=javax.sql.DataSource

                driverClassName=net.sourceforge.jtds.jdbc.Driver


url=jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://192.168.0.3:1433/summitexec

                username=someuser

                password=somepassword

                maxActive=20

                maxIdle=10

                maxWait=10/>


Thanks,


Randall


-----Original Message-----

From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:13 PM

To: Tomcat Users List

Subject: Speed issues with SQL Server 2000 and JTDS


I bought the Core Servlets and Java Server Pages and read it over the

weekend.  Happy New Year to me.  I did get out to a few parties though.

;)  I am having trouble getting JTDS to return results quickly.


Has anyone got any example code for how to properly query a SQL Server

2000 database?  The code I write needs to work with both SQL Server
2000


and SQL Server 7. In creating the connection, I am specifying

TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE and TYPE_CONCUR_READ_ONLY.  I tried not

specifying anything and got errors about not being able to scroll the

results.  Is the only solution to this, use FORWARD_ONLY and buffer the

contents myself?  I hoping there is a better way.


Thank you

Charles Killmer



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How are your tables set up? Do they use CHAR/VARCHAR or NCHAR/NVARCHAR?

You might need to change the setting of the
"sendStringParametersAsUnicode" attribute.  See
http://jtds.sourceforge.net/faq.html for more details.

Victor


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