For the record, I found the jar in the bin folder -- it was my eyes after all. Still cannot get it to work but that's another story and one I haven't had time for.... Brent Sims Systems Analyst 2 KC Human Services ------------------------------------------------- Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into separate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-round, everyday rage. I don't have time for fine distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. - George Carlin