I can't tell if this is a problem with tomcat or the JDK. Whenever I start tomcat the JRE starts the java process and it start the native_threads process. When I stop tomcat the java process goes away but the native_threads continues to run, and as it runs begins to eat up huge amounts of the CPU. Has anyone else encountered this and if so how did you fix it? Chad La Joie "Only a man who can not conquer IT Specialist his deficiencies feels the need to IS&C - WARD convince the world he has none"