Directly from Tomcat ...... no webserver involved.  It's happening with the example 
jsp files aswell - not my own code.

I'm assuming its some problem with servlet.jar.
Below is a sample from my logfile.txt.  If you have time to look at it you'll be able 
to see the exact errors I'm getting.

Thanks for all your help btw.

Caroline

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2001-12-21 12:50:01 StandardWrapper[:default]: Loading container servlet default
2001-12-21 12:50:01 StandardWrapper[:invoker]: Loading container servlet invoker
2001-12-21 12:50:01 StandardWrapper[:jsp]: Marking servlet jsp as unavailable
2001-12-21 12:50:01 StandardContext[]: Servlet  threw load() exception
javax.servlet.ServletException: Error instantiating servlet class 
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWrapper.java:893)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.java:808)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.loadOnStartup(StandardContext.java:3266)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3395)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:785)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:454)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.install(StandardHost.java:714)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:300)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.start(HostConfig.java:389)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.lifecycleEvent(HostConfig.java:232)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(LifecycleSupport.java:155)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1131)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:614)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1123)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:307)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:388)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:505)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:781)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:681)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:179)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:243)
----- Root Cause -----
java.lang.IncompatibleClassChangeError: Implementing class
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:486)
        at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:111)
        at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:248)
        at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56)
        at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
        at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.loader.StandardClassLoader.findClass(StandardClassLoader.java:674)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.loader.StandardClassLoader.loadClass(StandardClassLoader.java:1093)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.loader.StandardClassLoader.loadClass(StandardClassLoader.java:992)
        at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:313)
        at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Native Method)
        at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:237)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWrapper.java:884)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.load(StandardWrapper.java:808)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.loadOnStartup(StandardContext.java:3266)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:3395)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:785)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:454)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.install(StandardHost.java:714)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:300)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.start(HostConfig.java:389)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.lifecycleEvent(HostConfig.java:232)
        at 
org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(LifecycleSupport.java:155)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1131)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:614)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1123)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:307)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:388)
        at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:505)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:781)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.execute(Catalina.java:681)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.process(Catalina.java:179)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
        at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:243)



12/21/01 3:11:32 PM, "ian silvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>fair point - are you using a webserver in front of Tomcat Caroline? or does
>the error get thrown if you browse to Tomcat directly at port 8080 (by
>default)?
>
>ian
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Schroomnig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: ""Tomcat Users List"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:07 PM
>Subject: RE: Re: HTTP error 503. Please please help !
>
>
>> Excuse my naiv question, but if I understand this correctly then the 503
>error is returned to the browser (client) by the Webserver due to some kind
>of problem between the Webserver and the Appserver, in this case TomCat. If
>I had a servlet that sent of a request to some kind of other server and
>receive in return the 503 Status Code then that would mean that the
>webserver that I sent the request to is having problems talking to the
>Appserver behind it. Did I understand this correctly? The reason I'm asking
>is because I had a similar problem in one of my apps not to long ago.
>>
>> Thanks in Advance, Fred
>>
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >5xx errors are generated by the server when it realises that it cannot
>> >process a request or something prevented it from handling the request
>> >correctly. Try deleting the work directory and restarting the tomcat.
>Also
>> >check your JSP pages.
>> >Thanks.
>> >RS
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Caroline Clewlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/21/2001 03:42:24 AM
>> >
>> >Please respond to "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> >To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >cc:
>> >
>> >Subject:  HTTP error 503.  Please please help !
>> >
>> >Hi
>> >I have installed Tomcat 4.01 but cannot access any JSP pages.  When I try
>I
>> >receive HTTP error 503 saying the jsp service is  not available.
>> >I've read one or two queries like this on the mailing list but haven't
>seen
>> >any replies that solve the problem.
>> >Can anyone help me please ?
>> >Thanks
>> >Caroline
>> >
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