Yeah I haven't found any way of doing load balancing without Apache 
either.  My question was hopefull but you only confirmed my earlier 
findings :(.

We're probably going with hardware SSL so I wouldn't need Apache to 
handle this and that's why I want standalone Tomcats (I was curious 
about their performance with SSL though).

In any case you're right about not a lot of people worrying about this. 
  It seems like load balancing is not very commonly used.

Good luck,
d.

Eddie Bush wrote:
> Yep - that's why I mentioned that as the "favorable" solution hehe - I 
> guess I should have clearified.  Whereas you've probably (had the joy of 
> having) implemented this, I just read about it.  Hey, by the way, Craig 
> - have you followed my struggle at all?  How would _you_ suggest I 
> implement http/https and redirects back and forth under Tomcat + Apache 
> + mod_jk?  I'd love a tip or two =)  I trust your word a great deal.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eddie
> 
> Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
> 
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Eddie Bush wrote:
>>
>>> You peaked my interest.  I did some digging.  I see no mention of doing
>>> load-balancing that does not include Apache.  There are other ways:
>>>
>>> DNS Load Balancing (affinity not guaranteed - dead server = bad 
>>> requests)
>>> Clustering (better - but SSL geeks affinity)
>>>
>>> As it happens, you can wire a hardware SSL-decoder in front of your
>>> cluster-manager and overcome the shortcomings of that approach.  I think
>>> the best solution is Apache + Tomcat though.  It's undoubtedly
>>> cheaper/easier.  So - you ready to install Apache yet?  Breeze over to
>>> the Oreilly site and look for "Apache Wrangler" and something called
>>> LAMP.  You'll find an article that will point you to a script that will
>>> download/install Apache + SSL (it even "pre-configures" it for you -
>>> whatever that means).  If you have the option of using RPMs, I'd go with
>>> that option though.  RPM == good (IMHO).
>>>
>> One thing you will need to ensure is that your load balancing solution
>> routes all requests for the same session back to the same Tomcat instance
>> (like the balancing through Apache does).
>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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