> Writing functions in a JSP page (wrapped in <%! ... %> delimiters) is evil
> ... don't even bother learning how to do it.

Well not true Craig! If something is used more than ONCE one should use a
method even inside a JSP. One could use custom tags but I believe one should
bother to learn <%! ... %>. I recommend it :)





> > Craig,
> >
> > Your response confirms what I thought. My questions was purely
educational
> > and not that I am having such cases in my code. Thanks for your
response.
> > Surely no one should put logic in the PL (jsp). But someone could define
and
> > use a utility method (eg putting a HTML table showing some data eg date
etc)
> > in jsp. I positive that this is something that could be done if not in
> > current JSP version but in future versions. There could be a directive
eg
> > THIS.doit() that gets translated by the JSP engine into something like
> > colrs$jsp.doit() (colrs.jsp is the jsp file). Though it is certainly not
> > that important as required but could be done. Perhaps also at instance
> > level!
> >
>
> In general, that is what JSP custom tags are for.  Among other things,
> they let you create arbitrary dynamic output, based on the parameters you
> specify for that tag.  Good examples to look at include:
>
> * The JSP standard tag library (available via Apache as the 'standard"
>   tag library at <http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs>.
>
> * Tags that generate arbitrarily complex HTML output, such as the tags
>   provided by the Struts framework <http://jakarta.apache.org.struts/>.
>
> However, in none of these cases do you see any processing functions being
> stored in a JSP page and called from another - that would not conform to
> good object oriented design principles.  Instead, you see the common
> paradigm of using request attributes to share information within the time
> frame of a given request, or session attributes to share information
> across multiple requests for a given user.
>
> Writing functions in a JSP page (wrapped in <%! ... %> delimiters) is evil
> ... don't even bother learning how to do it.
>
> > Thanks
> >
>
> Craig
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: jsp in packages
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, D Bamud wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:27:53 +0530
> > > > From: D Bamud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: jsp in packages
> > > >
> > > > Q1. Can I declare my jsp files in packages? How?
> > > >
> > >
> > > No.  You have zero control over what package the JSP compiler puts
your
> > > page in, or even what the class name of the generated servlet is.
> > >
> > > > Q2. I have written a static method in one jsp page. I want to call
this
> > > > method in another jsp page. How to do it? I do not want to take this
> > method
> > > > out from the jsp and put into a class (.java) and use it in both the
jsp
> > > > files.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You need to rethink your "do not want to take this method out"
> > > statement.  JSP pages and servlets are designed to be totally
independent
> > > components, and you can't get a reference to an instance of one page
or
> > > servlet from another.  Shared logic and shared data *must* be stored
in
> > > separate classes.
> > >
> > > And, you're going to need to understand how to organize your code
properly
> > > to work on larger scale projects anyway, so now is a good time to
start.
> > > Hint -- putting logic in your JSP pages is not a good design practice.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
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