OK, thanks. (The BugTraq search engine wasn't working when I checked
there.)

So it sounds pretty much like what I thought it was. I still don't
understand why Velocity wouldn't be vulnerable to this exploit.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rossen Raykov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:17 PM
> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Subject: RE: [SECURITY] Apache Tomcat 4.x JSP source 
> disclosurevulnerability
> 
> 
> See the original posting on BugTrag for more details 
> http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/292936/2002-09-21/20
> 02-09-27/0
> 
> Regards,
> Rossen Raykov
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 5:34 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: RE: [SECURITY] Apache Tomcat 4.x JSP source 
> > disclosurevulnerability
> > 
> > 
> > I'm having a hard time finding many specifics about this 
> exploit. It 
> > sounds like you're forcing the default servlet to serve up 
> the source 
> > page as static content.  Why isn't Velocity vulnerable in the same 
> > way?
> > 
> > I'll buy that Velocity is faster than JSP, and certainly 
> can be more 
> > concise and readable.  I haven't seen much about security.  
> What makes 
> > it more secure than JSP?
> > --
> > Tim Moore / Blackboard Inc. / Software Engineer
> > 1899 L Street, NW / 5th Floor / Washington, DC 20036
> > Phone 202-463-4860 ext. 258 / Fax 202-463-4863
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 5:26 PM
> > > To: tomcat-dev; Tomcat Users List
> > > Subject: Re: [SECURITY] Apache Tomcat 4.x JSP source 
> > > disclosurevulnerability
> > > 
> > > 
> > > on 2002/9/24 4:59 AM, "Remy Maucherat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > A security vulnerability has been confirmed to exist in
> > all Apache
> > > > Tomcat 4.x releases (including Tomcat 4.0.4 and Tomcat
> > > 4.1.10), which
> > > > allows to use a specially crafted URL to return the
> > > unprocessed source
> > > > of a JSP page, or, under special circumstances, a 
> static resource
> > > > which would otherwise have been protected by security 
> constraint, 
> > > > without the need for being properly authenticated.
> > > 
> > > Once again...JSP sucks and Velocity is the right way to
> > > go...you will never have to worry about your container 
> > > spilling your beans (pun intended).
> > > 
> > > Given that Tomcat gets around 100k+ downloads/week...imagine
> > > how many servers now need to be updated and how much money 
> > > and time that will cost to do so?
> > > 
> >     http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/
> > 
> > Wake up people. Velocity is faster and more secure than JSP 
> will ever 
> > be.
> > 
> > -jon

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