Hi John, this is steve burrus, and I just couldn't help but reply/respond back to you! I totally agreee with u that communication between people is certainly a "2-way street", and I THOUGHT that every time that I have sought help in the past I have suppled every single bit of info to inform anyone in our group enough to make a decision as to what advice would be the best to offer to me to get me over a particular problem!!! And, as to if I have yet gotten Tomcat up and running: "So, that said, Steve, how are you doing with Tomcat? Did you get it installed and running?" I am afraid that the direct answer would be a NO!! Any more tips which you could possibly offer me to get Tomcat going? Thank you very much in advance John re. to your complaint "Yet, NOT ONCE, have you ever posted a message that said "Thanks for the help, it worked and I am making progress" "
********************************************************************************** --- "Turner, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for your comments, Steve. I am not a perfectionist. It was > irritating when, after spending a significant amount of time and effort > helping Lior at the beginning of the week, he chooses to make disparaging > comments about how everyone else "seems" to be getting help when he isn't. > > I read every post on the list. I only reply when I think I might be able to > help. In the case of Lior's second request for help, I had nothing to add, > and thus I didn't reply. I think it's poor manners for someone to assume at > that point that I want to help some people but not others. Posting wrong > answers doesn't help anyone. > > I think even you, Steve Burrus, can admit that asking questions the "right" > way will typically get you your answer faster. The "right" way not being my > way, but simply the way that provides the most information to the person > trying to help. Don't you agree that it is much easier to help someone if > they give you all the information you need up front? Having to ask many > questions just to get basic information that should have been supplied in > the first place only slows everything down, and keeps the person looking for > an answer from getting one quickly. > > For example, Steve, at least a dozen people, including me, have helped you > in the past. People have provided you with detailed, step-by-step > instructions to help you with problems that you've posted. Yet, NOT ONCE, > have you ever posted a message that said "Thanks for the help, it worked and > I am making progress" or similar messages to let the people who helped you > know if what they did made a difference. > > Communication is a two-way street. If you want people to communicate an > answer to you quickly and efficiently, you have to communicate to them > quickly and efficiently. You also need to complete the communication. > > So, that said, Steve, how are you doing with Tomcat? Did you get it > installed and running? I'm sure the people who have helped you in the past > are wondering, and would like to know. > > In any case, have a great weekend! > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve R Burrus [mailto:burrus21@;yahoo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:08 PM > > To: Tomcat Users List > > Subject: RE: How come no one's is replying > > > > > > John, you admonished me some time ago about the particular > > way in which you think > > that you percieved my posting to the newsgroup, if you > > remember!! I don't know > > this Lior guy from Adam, but I DO think that he has something > > when he accuses u of > > seeming to want things "your way" in this newsgroup all the > > time!! Are you some > > kind of a perfectionist, and want everyone else to be that > > way also??? > > ************************************************************** > > ********************* > > > > --- "Turner, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. You might take the URL that > > George Sexton posted > > > seriously. You'd be amazed at the quality, free support > > you can get when > > > you aren't so petulant and demanding. > > > > > > Have a great day! > > > > > > John > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lior Shliechkorn [mailto:liorshliech@;yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:09 PM > > > > To: Tomcat Users List > > > > Subject: RE: How come no one's is replying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John, John, > > > > We don't need to get into this again...I understand your need > > > > to have everything your way and it's not that I don't > > > > appreciate what people had done to assist (or try to assist). > > > > However, I'm not asking the same complex questions that I see > > > > others ask, being that I am very new to this and don't > > > > understand much of the complexities and strict rules that > > > > Tomcat requires. > > > > In order not to hear from you the way I usually do I even > > > > included my code with the e-mail...and being that I am a nice > > > > person I will refrain from using certain words which I am > > > > sure you can sense are underlying much of what I'm saying. > > > > So if you feel the need to skip over my inquiries feel > > free to do so. > > > > Take care, and thanks for your efforts of trying to moderate > > > > posts to your liking. > > > > "Turner, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Now come on, are we going to have this conversation again? > > > > > > > > As I recall, several people, me included, spent a > > > > considerable amount of > > > > time answering your questions earlier this week. > > > > > > > > Did you ever consider that perhaps people don't have the > > > > answer, and don't > > > > want to waste your time (or their's) sending you on a wild > > > > goose chase? > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Lior Shliechkorn [mailto:liorshliech@;yahoo.com] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:38 PM > > > > > To: Tomcat > > > > > Subject: How come no one's is replying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been posting messages and I see other people picking up > > > > > other people's requests for help and no one pays any > > > > > attention to mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > > > > > faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more > > > > faith.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:tomcat-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:tomcat-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-user-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-user-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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