My apologies, Pae. I had no idea this was your private line. How are things going generally, just to make conversation?

At 04:12 PM 11/27/2002 -0800, you wrote:
You listen up. You should know who started this first.
And mind your own business.


Pae



> Pae, you are sure a sensitive person.  I, for one, do not appreciate this
> nastiness in a public place.  Please try to "play well with others".  And,
> to be fair, I certainly have had my moments too.
>
> At 11:41 AM 11/27/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >First, let me copy the initial inquriy to refresh your memory.
> >
> >"I'm wondering how I should do to make tomcat use the paths that are in
> >my CLASSPATH?"
> >
> >Does it say or imply to move JARs or packages to a specific
> >location? The question was simple and the my reply included
> >a simple suggestion according to the inquiry.
> >
> >And back to your comments. Look back about 5 years ago. Did
> >you envisoned all the technologies and standards what's going on
> >now? What make so sure what's going on will stay same in next
> >5 to 10 years later?
> >
> >Also, not every user of TC develop the app to sell and consider
> >all the factors you mentioned. A matter fact, most of products from
> >your company, Millennium ChemInformatics, do no even have the
> >basic concept of n-tier architecture nor grid-level, distributed
computing.
> >
> >If you are so well-planned and -built the outstanding product(if there
> >is any) let me know, I will not mind given you some lessons of
> >well structured architecture and success characteristics in marketability
> >  as well as other factors.
> >
> >Last, AFAIK, your compnay is losing the money than making it. Perhaps,
> >you contributed that too?
> >
> >
> >Pae
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:17 AM
> >Subject: RE: How do I integrate my CLASSPATH on Tomcat?
> >
> >
> >Howdy,
> >
> > >Long run? I've been watching TC a long enough and have changed
> > >a number of times the scheme of including the CLASSPTH. In the
> > >long run, are you absolutely sure what is going right now will be
> > >stay same ... say in next 5 years?
> >
> >I'm sure tomcat will implement the servlet specification standard, yes.
> >I'm sure the servlet specification standard will not mention anything
> >about $CLASSPATH in server-specific startup scripts, yes.  /WEB-INF/lib
> >is the standard way to go.  It's the only way to go if you don't want to
> >change scripts when changing servers.  If you had put the libs there
> >when using tomcat 3.x, you wouldn't have had to move them when moving to
> >4.x, etc.
> >
> > >What's the time frame for "the long run" mean? More than 5 years?
> >
> >Any time other than the initial beginner setup.  You want to be able to
> >setup from scratch automatically, e.g. using an ant script.  You want a
> >3rd party person to be able to deploy your app.  That's why the spec is
> >there.  That's why the idea of a .war file exists.
> >
> >Sure, you could write detailed instructions and require a specific
> >version of tomcat with your modifications to tomcat's startup script,
> >but good luck getting people to use (much less buy) your app then ;)
> >
> >Obviously it's your app, your company (or university or whatever), so
> >it's your call.  In my personal experience, every place I've worked and
> >every boss I've had always insisted on portability and
> >standards-compliance as much as reasonably possible.  It's saved us many
> >times.  Now I insist on the same with all the developers that work for
> >me, all the projects I'm responsible for, etc.  And if I had a dollar
> >for every time it's paid off, I'd be rich ;)
> >
> >Yoav Shapira
> >Millennium ChemInformatics
> >
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