Howdy,
I would add Coyote as another big change from the older HttpConnector.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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>From: Bill Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:30 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Tomcat 4.1 slower than Tomcat 3.3
>
>Well, the big performance change in TC4.1 over TC3.3 is Jasper2 vs.
>Jasper1.
>For heavy JSP sites, my benchmarks say that TC4.1 wins.
>
>Since it seems that you aren't using JSP at all, it isn't surprising
(to me
>at least :) that the extra over-head of supporting the 2.3 Servlet spec
>drags down TC4.1 vs. TC3.3.  For non-JSP sites that don't require
>Servlet-2.3 features, it is very hard to beat  TC3.3 for performance.
>
>"Chris Agmen-Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Is Tomcat 4 slower than Tomcat 3?
>>
>> I've recently tried to port my Tomcat 3.3 webapp to Tomcat 4.1. It's
the
>> same webapp, the config files are as similar as I can make them,
we're
>using
>> the same connector to Apache. However, Tomcat 4.1 chews up CPU like
you
>> wouldn't believe.
>>
>> Example: at peak load, one of our Tomcat 3.3 servers served 20,000
page
>> impressions in an hour, at an average %usr CPU of 60%. Using Tomcat
4.1,
>we
>> can only serve about 7,000 pages if we down-weight it so that it is
at
>60%.
>>
>> Old setup:
>> Apache 1.3.x -> AJP 1.3 -> Tomcat 3.3.x -> webapp (uses Velocity 1.2
&
>> Turbine 2.1)
>>
>> New setup:
>> Apache 1.3.x -> AJP 1.3 -> Tomcat 4.1.x -> webapp (uses Velocity 1.2
&
>> Turbine 2.1)
>>
>> We have tried profiling the app using hprof and these are the
results:
>> Method                             Tomcat 3    Tomcat 4
>> java.net.URLEncoder.encode         33.62%      22.60%
>> java.net.SocketInputStream.read    14.15%      18.77%
>> java.net.SocketOutputStream.write   1.87%       3.47%
>>
>> The encode method is used by Velocity and Turbine to generate URL
links.
>For
>> this particular test, T4.1 used about 1.5 times the CPU that T3.3
used.
>> Given that the same number of pages & therefore links are being
>generated,
>I
>> think this shows that T4.1 is spending significantly more time in
>> SocketInputStream.read that T3.3.
>>
>> I have tried to following tuning options, even though they weren't
needed
>in
>> T3.3:
>> - Removed servlet filters (no effect; not used in T3.3)
>> - Reduced logging to bare minimum (no effect)
>> - Experimented with numerous JVM
>settings: -server -d64 -Xmn256mb -Xmx384mb
>> -Xconcurrentio (no effect)
>> - Tried latest Solaris patches (no effect)
>> - Tried 64-bit java (no effect)
>> - Changed maxProcessor (# of threads) from default to 20 to 50 to 100
etc
>> (no effect)
>> - Changed Java/Solaris threading libraries (no effect)
>>
>> I don't have any more ideas how to fix it; instead I am clutching at
>straws
>> :o) Some of those straws include:
>> - Tuning/hacking/fixing Turbine, in case it is incompatible with the
>Servlet
>> 2.3 spec.
>> - Trying even more JVM setting permutations, in the hope that I come
>across
>> the "magic" combination.
>> - Disabling socket keepalive in Apache.
>>
>> Until we can fix this, we are sticking with Tomcat 3.3, which has so
far
>> been stable, fast and robust (except for allowing sessions between
https
>and
>> http).
>>
>> Chris Agmen-Smith
>>
>>
>>
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