On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 11:35, Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 10:55 -0500, Derek E. Lewis wrote: > > The problem is the freeware -- not Solaris. > > Heh... I'd say we have a better chance to change Solaris than to > change the rest of the world.
Agreed, but that alone does not make it an ideal solution. > > > All freeware that uses the > > GNU utils should prepend a 'g' to them (ex. 'ggrep, gsed, etc.'). > > Solaris follows this naming convention for the most part; however, the > > vast majority of freware assumes your userland is ripe with GNU utils. > > In general, I don't think it's a good idea to have 2 versions of > every utility in Solaris. Why not have just one version that works? > In some cases the tools are not even incompatible, but the Solaris > tool one has only a subset of the features of the GNU tool. Solaris prides itself on maintaining compliance with a variety of standards. Its the developers of those OSS projects that decided to use GNU extensions. And now, Solaris is a target, because it chose to comply with accepted standards? > > > Rather than committing such fixes to Solaris, users building such > > freeware should send patches to the maintainers of that particular > > project. > > We've been doing that in the GNOME project but it's an uphill battle > and /me thinks it's a complete waste of resources. I can sympathize. I've had similar troubles with the MPlayer project, as the Solaris/AIX port maintainer. However, I'd rather go to the trouble of doing it the *right way*, and leaving the OSS developers to drown in the mess they've created. > > I guess what I'd like to see on Solaris is an environment where > Linux developers feel comfortable (because the features they are > used to are there and just work) but those who have been using > Solaris from the early days can continue to do things the way > they always did. > > Laca > -- Derek E. Lewis http://riemann.solnetworks.net/~dlewis/weblog [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ tools-discuss mailing list tools-discuss@opensolaris.org