Gavin Maltby wrote:
> On 10/05/07 01:41, James C. McPherson wrote:
>> Alexander Kolbasov wrote:
>>> James,
>> ...
>>>> - do you have a plan to backport these changes to an
>>>>    S10 Update release? Should this be considered at all?
>>> it could, definitely, be a possibility, although it is a bit strange 
>>> since it should not result in any patch produced, so the change is 
>>> strictly internal. This seems to be rather unusual candidate for a 
>>> back-port.
>>
>>
>> That is true, but I reckon people doing backports
>> to S10Update and RPE would all like to see much
>> faster build times. I know I would, that's for sure!
> 
> I don't believe you'll find the sustaining org, who owm the S10
> gates, will want any overhaul of the S10 Makefile structure
> *even if* it halves buildtimes.  There is now a standardized
> build environment etc for S10 in an effort to stabilize
> the build process, make it reproducable and so on and
> juggling Makefiles is extremely difficult to quantify
> in terms of risk (even if you can somehow prove the
> changes correct you're still subject to make bugs,
> speaking of which I think S10 still uses ParallelMake
> instead of dmake).
> 
> So for the sake of our customers, just throw hardware at
> S10 builds for sustaining/RPE.  It's much cheaper than
> debugging some weird bugs that a Makefile reorg may bring.

As much as I'd like to see the changes go
into an S10 update, I am very, very conscious
that these have a system-wide effect and
thus would probably not get a look-in. While
the S10 build system is slow, it isn't broken.


Although... perhaps if the changes demonstrated
a 90%+ improvement in build times..... :-)


cheers,
James
--
Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
Sun Microsystems
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