River Tarnell schrieb: > Daniel Kinzler: >> I'm not quite sure though if the toolserver blog should be on the planet... > > it already is.
Right. I was wondering if it should be. >> On the other hand, status reports like "replication failed, will fix >> tomorrow" is not so helpful in the aggregated feed. > > i don't know if that belongs on the blog; i intended it for organisational > issues more than technical. we do have a mailing list already... Yes, which is what toolserver users read. But we have an increasing need to inform "ordinary" weiki users about what'S going on. Because they are using the tools as part of normal site operation. The blog would be an easy< way of doing that, I think. >> The Toolserver, or more accurately, the Toolserver cluster, is a project by >> Wikimedia Germany > > with assistance from Wikimedia France (ZWS). True. And we are trying to make it easier for other chapters to support us. It's a bit tricky tax-wise, i'm told. >> The Toolserver cluster, is located in Amsterdam > > and one machine in Tampa. Indeed. And as dutch people insist, the cluster is no longer in Amsterdam at all. It's in Haarlem, about 10km west of Amsterdam :) >> I believe that there was some frustration by people who had the skill to >> develop helpful tools for the wiki communities, but did not get access to the >> main server cluster, for security reasons. So the idea arose to create a >> place for such people to work with the data. > > it's interesting that the Toolserver turned out quite differently than we > initially expected; i had hoped to create a community where people would work > together to create useful tools, but instead we have isolated users who create > their own tools (or in some cases, 10 copies of the same tool) and rarely work > together. it's a shame; i think the former would be much more useful than > what > we have now... Increasing cooperation would be cool. One thing that might help is to promote a "toolbox", that is, a shared library of utilities to be used and maintained by everyone. I suppose we should also rethink our permission model for svn repositories. Without a shared repository, cooperation is much harder. >>> * If one gets an account, what are the responsibilities? I know >>> accounts had to be reconfirmed, are there resource limits such as disk >>> space limits for each user? or what? >> It's the user's responsibility to comply to the rules, that is, to do no >> evil. >> There are no hard limits on resources, users are asked to be considerate. > > we do have a hard limit on memory use, which is 1GB per user. (because > we often found users would consume all the available memory, whereupon the > server would crash.) Ha, good to know. That's how sucky a system admin I am :) -- daniel _______________________________________________ Toolserver-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l
