On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:59:51AM -0400, Ryan Lane wrote: > > Of course, as I mentioned before, there's nothing forcing this new > model at all. If you guys want to build the exact same Toolserver > environment as a Labs project, go for it. I have a good feeling you'll > start doing things differently when you see the affordances given by > having more rights, though. Either path chosen, we'll help you with > infrastructure issues along the way. > > - Ryan > Hi Ryan,
This statement has been made before, but then you put all responsibility with the community, while the foundation can benefit as well. What people want and has appeared usefull, is a *supported* environment like toolserver where people can just get an account, run bots to support a wiki, experiment with simple tools, if needed work and support a tool together. This can then be a breeding bed for tools, and if needed brought a stage up, be documented and pacakged, so it can be rolled out as a wmf supported tool. That the toolserver environment is supported is imho an essential. While volunteer admins can certainly help and do a lot of work, including helping non-unix persons to startup, if there are really problems with the environment, it better guaranties there is somebody available to acct. Regards, Andre Koopal _______________________________________________ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette