Hello, At Thursday 02 May 2013 15:29:07 DaB. wrote: > I'm confused. I thought we were all here to support the readers, editors, > researchers and developers of the Wikimedia projects? If the toolserver is > empty because Labs is accomplishing the goal, isn't that a good thing? > > I've asked this before: why not help with Labs, rather than fighting > everyone? Let's work as a team
do not forget who started the fighting: The WMF. The WMF announced to WMDE that the database-replication is going to end in the near future, what caused that WMDE stopped to support the Toolserver properly. The very goal with this was to let (Tool-)Labs be the only alternative. A fair approach would have been to create Labs as an alternative to the Toolserver, letting the users (new and old) decide which system they want to use. Toolserver and Labs could have existed in coexistence, exchanging knowledge, and maybe specially in different fields after a while. But that was not what happened. Instead the WMF decided because the are bigger, have more money, servers and personal, and control the replication-data, that they just could put the toolserver to an end – what didn't work as well as expected. And now we are sitting here with confused tool-authors, annoyed tool-users and a angry root. I didn't start the fight and I am not interested in teaming-up with a party which was not interested to build a team in the very beginning when it counted. Switching or helping with Labs would signal that I'm fine with all what the WMF did – and I'm not. Sincerely, DaB. -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885
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