In a message dated 11/19/2011 2:00:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: K2AV <[email protected] You know Guy, your diatribes are a sure cure for insomnia. I have a buddy who sez "Stop measuring everything, tune up, and work 'em." I think at times he's right.... and yet I like to measure things. As for your subject, it's a moot point. Apparently a lot of others prefer to play your game rather than just "tune up and work 'em." But it's taking up a lot of band width for no apparent reason. The moderator has been very lenient for some reason I don't understand. That's his choice. Guess he wants everyone to have their say, even if it is boring and doesn't change what they have to work with in their back yard. I prefer to read the classics on the subject that have the most to do with what is important to Hams that want to work DX on 160... like G3HRH,”The Ground Beneath Us,” RSGB June, 1966, pp.375-385, or perhaps G.H. Brown, “ The Phase and Magnitude of Earth Currents Near Radio Transmitting Antennas,” Proc. Of the IRE, February 1935, Volume 23, Number 2, or what you have been quoting, Brown, R.F. Lewis, & J. Epstein, “Ground Systems as a Factor in Antenna Efficiency,” Proceedings Of the IRE, June, 1937, Volume 25, Number 6. Nothing much else has clarified the issues lately other than the work of A.C. Doty Jr., J.A. Frey, & H.J. Mills, “Efficient Ground Systems for Vertical Antennas, ”QST, Feb., 1983 and R. Severns, “Experimental Determination of Ground System Performance for HF Verticals,”QEX, Jan/Feb 2009 through Jan/Feb 2010. After wading through those, any Ham should be able to make their own good decisions as to the compromises they want to make in their own stations. In my own humble opinion, any further discussion is a waste of cyberspace. Thanks for your great concern for everyone's success, Guy. Now why don't you just tune up and work 'em? 73, best DX, Barry
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