Hi Greg, I think we have a little misunderstanding. None of these arguments are against remote operation ! I am all for remote operation even from space, what ever floats your boat. The issue is DXCC award entitlement. A proposal was suggested to have separate DXCC award categories for home vs remote. That way everyone can pursue DXCC to their hearts content and in each category there is a level playing field. (that is the crux of the issue)
73, Bob K6UJ > On Jul 10, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Greg Zenger <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bob and the others, > > I understand (and even agree with, at least to an extent) many of the > arguments against remote operation. It seems like most of these arguments > are against remote stations that are rented, or remote stations that are > self owned but at a different location than the operators primary operating > location (Other side of country, lower noise QTH, etc.) > > Do you have a problem with those of us who operate our own primary stations > remotely? Sometimes I am sent out of the continental USA for business > trips, and I can be away for months at a time. I'm likely to miss a good > DXpedition or two during that time away. By operating remotely, it gives me > something to do in the hotel room when the work for the day is complete, > and it drives me to build a more robust and reliable station, because I > dont have the luxury of making repairs until I return home. It sure is > nice to have these 'remote' contacts that I make count towards my award. > Afterall, every contact applied toward my award was made from the same > antennas, connected to the same radios, in the same yard, regardless of > where I was when I touched the paddles or PTT. > > Curious to hear your opinions on this particular angle. > > 73, > Greg N2GZ > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Robert Harmon <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> I also do not like the idea of remote station operation being acceptable >> for DXCC. >> (Charlie, you have one more year on me, I was licensed in 1958 :-) >> I have pursued the DXCC awards for all these years and now to allow remote >> op to be granted >> the same awards gives the DXCC awards almost zero value. Whether the >> remote operation is >> rented or self owned it makes no difference. I'm sure a lot of us have >> the same thinking on this >> but haven't had the opportunity to express our feelings. Actually I >> believe the majority of ARRL DXers feel this >> way. I think the board needs to find a way to get input from the >> majority ! >> Lastly, One consideration for the board to look at is to have a separate >> DXCC category for remote operation. Then >> everyone is happy and there would be a level playing field for each >> category, home station or remote. (After all that is the >> crux of the issue) >> >> >> 73, >> Bob >> K6UJ >> >> >> >>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Charles Cu nningham < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Mike >>> >>> Well, I've been licensed and a DXer since February 1957. In my opinion >>> remote stations and operations should NOT be acceptable for DXCC. >> Perhaps a >>> special NEW DXCC could be established for those operations Most of us >> over >>> the decades have worked diligently so improve our stations and antennas >>> within the bounds available to us! To have to compete with remote Super >>> Stations that are sited to provide significant advantages on certain DX >>> paths or bands REALLY spoils it for oo many of us, and establishes is as >> a >>> "Sport for the Rich" like so many other things in our society! I am >> opposed >>> to offering conventional "DXCC" credit for remote operations! >>> >>> 73, >>> Charlie, K4OTV >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Topband [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony >>> K1AMF >>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:10 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Topband: Fwd: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input >>> >>> FYI, now's your chance to speak up if you haven't already. Please e-mail >>> N2YBB or other ARRL board members directly with any questions or >> comments. >>> Not looking to rehash things here on the reflector. >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: ARRL Members Only Web site <[email protected]> >>> Date: 07/09/2015 7:01 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: ARRL Board meets next week - I'm looking for input >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Next week, the Board of Directors will be holding their second meeting of >>> the year. One of the topics up for discussion is the recent change in >> DXCC >>> rules, particularly as to the use of remote operations for DXCC credit. >>> >>> I would be interested in knowing what you, the ARRL member, feel about >> the >>> rules for DXCC. In particular, I would like to know what your opinion is >>> regarding crediting (for awards) DX contacts made by remote control >>> operations, be they through self owned or rented stations. >>> >>> I would be also be interested in your experiences if you have operated >>> remotely in chasing DX for DXCC credit. >>> >>> If you have any other items of interest, please also let me know. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> 73 de Mike N2YBB >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ARRL Hudson Division >>> Director: Mike Lisenco, N2YBB >>> [email protected] >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from messages, go to: >>> http://p1k.arrl.org/oo/9f9aac45c9716441c7caaf5957d1c686 >>> _________________ >>> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband >>> >>> _________________ >>> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband >> >> _________________ >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband >> > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
