We have learned a lot about BOG antennas thanks to research by Luis, IV3PRK/HC1PF. The initals BOG was for Beverage On Ground. He found that it did not function as a Beverage when on the ground, but the pattern was better, noise generally lower. It may require a preamplifier in the radio room.- Depends upon the receiver/transceiver. The 200 foot length is the starting point for a wire 'right' on the ground. As it disappears under vegitation , you may have to shorten it a couple of years, or use a stick with a hook at the end to pull it out of the weeds. Best to read Luis's research pages to get an idea what is going on. http://www.iv3prk.it/new-page.htm http://www.iv3prk.it/bog-modeling.htm 73 Bruce-k1fz _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband