Go to your trash transfer station and root through the consumer electronics.  A 
lot of stereos, tv cable converters  and dvrs have 12v power supplies you can 
lift out on separate boards. If the cans aren't bulged they are probably ok.  
Same goes for junk microwaves, most of which have identical low dc voltage 
supplies - separate from the hv that goes to the magnetron.  They come complete 
with bypass caps for the AC line current.  And 12v relays too. You can also get 
buckets of 12v coil relays from washers and dryers.
If all else fails most goodwill stores have a misc cables and wall warts 
section where you can get all the dc voltages imaginable as wall chargers for a 
buck or two.
HTH




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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:36:40 -0800
From: "James Denneny" <[email protected]>
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Amazon has many different types ranging from wall warts to dedicated heavy
duty supplies.  I would think the wall wart would be enough to key relay and
they are inexpensive.

 

73, Jim K7EG



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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:31:29 -0600
From: Mike Waters <[email protected]>
To: Craig Clark <[email protected]>
Cc: topband <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation
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Great question, Craig! I asked this question a few months ago here:

ham.stackexchange.com/questions/8940/what-is-the-cause-of-this-unusually-long-period-of-terrible-hf-band-conditions

It is NOT what the answers there claim. I have done extensive research on
this. And when I get the time and motivation again, I'll share what I have
found.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Nov 15, 2017 7:29 AM, "Craig Clark" <[email protected]> wrote:

So, what IS going on? Why has propagation on Top Band (and other bands)
been so poor?
An inquiring mind would like some "ed-u-macation." I missed K9LA's
presentation at W9DXCC this year.

Craig Clark K1QX


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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:09:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Yuri Blanarovich <[email protected]>
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Cc: Craig Clark <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation
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To put it simple terms:
Sun(spot) activity is low, atmo/ionosphere layers height has shrunk.
RF mirrors/ducts are?lower, propagation is squished (sucks).
I remember 1958 when I could work the whole world at the same time with 
10W?Wehrmacht tank TX and (Windom) piece of wire for 24 hours?on 10m!
Highest sunspot activity in my lifetime, never repeated since.

73 Yuri, K3BU/KH6
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?On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 08:28 AM, Craig Clark wrote:
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?> So, what IS going on? Why has propagation on Top Band (and other 
bands) been
> so poor?
> An inquiring mind would like some "ed-u-macation." I missed K9LA's
> presentation
> at W9DXCC this year.
>
> Craig Clark K1QX
>
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