You should ask that question on the FT8 users group actually. There is an interest group that is wanting to use the frequency for a short time. When you get there (or can you tell your computer) and there is already activity - can you QSY to 30M? Why is it that the FT8 interest group takes precedence over the contesting group actually?
If you think that 1838 - 1941 will remain QRM from for the 160M contest.... So if not me, it will be one of the other 1000 participants globally that are happy to use the found clear frequency. Sounds like you have an agenda Greg. 73 Ed N1UR -----Original Message----- From: Greg [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Topband: FT8 qrm Just because you have the right to be on a frequency, if you know another interest group wants to use it and it has become that group's normal operating segment -- whether by gentleman's agreement or band plan, then why do you feel the need to use that space? Just selfish I guess. No one questions the "right" to use a frequency; they question the intelligence of someone who deliberately tries to enforce their "right" when they have other options that don't create a conflict. FT8 is no more flawed than CW. If there is a pileup on the cw DX frequency, you won't be able to copy either. Does that make CW a flawed mode? I'm not advocating for FT8; I'm advocating for decency and common sense. It takes so little effort to be considerate of others...but then the world seems to be getting less hospitable all the time. Unfortunate. 73, Greg-N4CC -----Original Message----- From: Topband [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Sawyer Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Topband: FT8 qrm I'm sorry but I don't buy the argument that the way to be a "gentleman" is to accept everyone else's interests above your own. A "gentleman" is respectful of others and treats others as he/she wants to be treated. No one owns a frequency channel at least in the US - read your license. If I come on a frequency, hear nothing, ask QRL using a legal and accepted mode for the frequency and hear nothing, I am using the frequency. By the way - even the ARRL admits there is no longer a "DX Window" on 160M. If FT8 is such a fragile mode to QRM that it needs a 2khz undisturbed window, then it is a flawed mode that will not stand the test of time in my opinion. I am already starting to hear DX side people saying it's a complete waste of time and abandoning it. I hear 3Y is going to try it - that should be hilarious. I think that most of the FT8 crowd is horribly misinformed with dribble they read on the internet and think that some "net authority" has granted exclusive access to said frequency band and that they have had such right since June. Look for me on 1840 in the ARRL 160 this weekend after listening, asking QRL, and seeing if I am disturbing anyone in my 400hz receiving window. 73 Ed N1UR _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
