Agree... Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 2, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On 2019-08-02 8:06 PM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote: >> expand the DXCC program by creating a new category! FT-x is >> sufficiently different to justify that. The skills need for FT-x are >> different from those required for the traditional modes. > > Absolutely not! All modes used for DXCC have more skills in common > than they have differences. There is more difference between CW and > SSB than there is among RTTY, PSKxx, FTx - yet all count for DXCC > Mixed. The key for any mode is knowing what band/time to choose > (when propagation is most favorable) and understanding where the > other station is listening. Those apply to FTx as much as CW or SSB. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > >> On 2019-08-02 8:06 PM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote: >> Nobody is talking about "shutting" anything down. >> Quite the opposite: expand the DXCC program by creating a new category! FT-x >> is sufficiently different to justify that. The skills need for FT-x are >> different from those required for the traditional modes. A new award >> category would reflect that. >> I would go further, but I don't think too far: >> FT-x could be crucial to HAM radio's future. On a recent mini DXpedition I >> asked a young and recently licensed HAM to operate FT-8. He said, sure, give >> me a minute. He brought his laptop (not the one that was part of the FT-8 >> station) and proceeded to operate FT-8, while using his laptop to watch a >> movie and was looking at Facebook, and he was in chats with friends (and >> HAM-s) on his phone. I was somewhat peeved, until I came to realize that >> this is how the new generation lives: multi-threading using their electronic >> devices. Unlike us, most of them are not willing to put on the head-phones >> and concentrate on weak CW signals for hours, to the exclusion of everything >> else. They don't live like that and they will not enjoy a hobby like that. >> It is not my place to judge whether this is good or bad. It is what it is. >> But to attract this new "multi-activity generation" to HAM radio (an entire >> generation, not just the odd kid), the hobby must offer a mode that is >> compatible with how they live. FT-8 is perfect for that: it can be operated >> remotely from a smart-phone via an app, while riding a bus or train and >> doing other things... And, yes, it can be automated. >> There will be nothing wrong with a young HAM working 100 countries in a >> month while not even at his station. Good for him! Just don't mix his >> achievement with mine. (Is RTTY really a digital mode? It seems to be very >> analog these days.) >> 73, >> George, >> AA7JV >> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 17:05:23 -0500 >> Cecil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Cecil <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is nonsense.... >>> >>>> That is only possible if someone has modified the software and is cheating >>>> the system...which I might add could be done with computers and creative >>>> software writing to any of the digital modes including CW.... >>> >>> That is cheating and not grounds for disallowance from total DXCC >>> participation for all users. >>> >>> Certainly I can do that for one QSO if I need to run to the bathroom or >>> grab a quick cup of coffee etc....but if you believe for a second that the >>> FT8 software is designed to crank it up, walk away for a couple hours and >>> come back later to tally up your take as you describe you are showing your >>> lack of knowledge of WSJT’s design. >>> >>> Am I suggesting that some are not doing that...no...not for a minute. >>> Would I suggest that all DXers are running no more than the legal limit >>> when chasing a new one or no more than 200 watts on 30 meters, or not using >>> a remote station element to gain an unfair advantage to add a new >>> one...nope. >>> But it is happening... >>> >>> Should we shut down the entire awards system because the possibility exists >>> that someone will cheat...I think not. >>> >>> I for one think you should rethink your article before submission Alan... >>> >>> Respectfully >>> >>> Cecil >>> K5DL >>>>>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Alan Swinger <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> . Since FT8 operators can walk away and not participate in QSOs, and come >>>>> back after some other activity and see how many new countries and QSOs >>>>> that the computer made, >>> >>> _________________ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector >> _________________ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
