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K5DL Sent from my iPad > On Feb 9, 2022, at 7:27 PM, UA3AGW Dmitry Zaslavsky via Topband > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear Nikolay, UY0ZG ! > > Can you please stop shitting on your Ukranian colleagues at least in the > international group ! Believe me — It’s not interesting to anyone here. > Moreover — everybody @ Russian QRZ.ru Forums are so much tired of your > trolling and whinning that you have been already banned by many moderators. > And now I see you've found a new loophole for your restless temper. Be aware > that this resource was not created for those who have a desire and habit to > keep throwing mud at everything like you, man! > No matter whether you’re an experienced Topbander or just a starter — you > should respect another subscribers here. Just look what other people are > writing about here. Better share your antenna experiments and TB DXing > issues, achievements or any other TB related topics and you’ll be more than > welcome! > > I wish you a «miraculous healing» from this fancy and bizarre style of > communication, which you have repeatedly demonstrated to us on the pages of > this thematic reflector > > Best 73’s from friendly Russia ! > > Dima, UA3AGW >> Вторник, 8 февраля 2022, 20:00 +03:00 от [email protected]: >> >> Send Topband mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Topband digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. 8 Circle question (Jim Miller) >> 2. Re: 8 Circle question ([email protected]) >> 3. Re: 8 Circle question (Mike Fatchett) >> 4. Re: 8 Circle question (Jim Miller) >> 5. Re: 8 Circle question (Joe Subich, W4TV) >> 6. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy) >> 7. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg) >> 8. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg) >> 9. " LOW POWER " (Roger Kennedy) >> 10. Re: " LOW POWER " (uy0zg) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:38:09 -0500 >> From: Jim Miller < [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Topband: 8 Circle question >> Message-ID: >> < cacyen9wdgsryoturabjfkadl0fhrmagyqn-6pwnagpjpcgq...@mail.gmail.com > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the >> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my >> neighbor's property. >> >> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each >> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if >> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75 >> ohm terminations of course. >> >> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the >> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed. >> >> 73 >> >> Jim ab3cv >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:43:41 -0700 >> From: [email protected] >> To: Jim Miller < [email protected] > >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question >> Message-ID: < [email protected] > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> Jim, >> >> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad >> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array? >> >> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array >> only uses 4 verticals for each direction. >> >> 73 Joel W5ZN >> >> >>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote: >>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the >>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on >>> my >>> neighbor's property. >>> >>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each >>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if >>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with >>> 75 >>> ohm terminations of course. >>> >>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the >>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Jim ab3cv >>> _________________ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>> Reflector >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:45:17 -0700 >> From: Mike Fatchett < [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question >> Message-ID: < [email protected] > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> You might consider the 9 circle which uses 3 verticals for each >> direction.? It might be interesting to model that with missing elements >> in those directions but the other directions should work just fine. >> >> The 8 circle uses 2 pair of phased elements.? It is hard to speculate >> not know which elements would be missing.? It would seem to reason the >> the intact pairs would work fine. >> >> Most 8 circles do not have a center element.? That would be a 9. >> >> W0MU >> >>> On 2/7/2022 2:38 PM, Jim Miller wrote: >>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the >>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on my >>> neighbor's property. >>> >>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each >>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if >>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with 75 >>> ohm terminations of course. >>> >>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the >>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Jim ab3cv >>> _________________ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:45:39 -0500 >> From: Jim Miller < [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question >> Message-ID: >> < CACYeN9zj-dJaqEgYFKFMhty96SC7Uv=c9_bfiemif-mu2np...@mail.gmail.com > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element >> endfire in each direction. >> >> I'm obviously limited in space here... >> >> Thanks and sorry for the confusion >> >> jim ab3cv >> >>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < [email protected] > wrote: >>> >>> Jim, >>> >>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad >>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array? >>> >>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array >>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction. >>> >>> 73 Joel W5ZN >>> >>> >>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote: >>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the >>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on >>>> my >>>> neighbor's property. >>>> >>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each >>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if >>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with >>>> 75 >>>> ohm terminations of course. >>>> >>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the >>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed. >>>> >>>> 73 >>>> >>>> Jim ab3cv >>>> _________________ >>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>>> Reflector >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:54:15 -0500 >> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" < [email protected] > >> To: Jim Miller < [email protected] >, "[Topband]" >> < [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Topband: 8 Circle question >> Message-ID: < [email protected] > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> >> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote: >> > I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element >> > endfire in each direction. >> >> The 9 circle (3 element endfire) uses approximately 1:2:1 element >> "drive". Removing one of the end elements will not yield a "clean" >> pattern but you would need to model both 0:2:1 and 1:2:0 arrays to >> see if the remnant pattern would be acceptable. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >>> On 2022-02-07 4:45 PM, Jim Miller wrote: >>> I was doing the YCCC version which uses 9 antennas to form a 3 element >>> endfire in each direction. >>> >>> I'm obviously limited in space here... >>> >>> Thanks and sorry for the confusion >>> >>> jim ab3cv >>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 4:43 PM < [email protected] > wrote: >>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> Which 8 circle version are you referring to?? The HiZ-8 or the Broad >>>> Side-End Fire (BSEF) 8 vertical array? >>>> >>>> The HiZ-8 uses all 8 verticals for each direction but the BSEF array >>>> only uses 4 verticals for each direction. >>>> >>>> 73 Joel W5ZN >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2022-02-07 14:38, Jim Miller wrote: >>>>> I'm looking at putting out an 8 circle but three of the antennas on the >>>>> circumference may need to be seasonally placed since they would be on >>>>> my >>>>> neighbor's property. >>>>> >>>>> If those three were removed would the remaining 2 elements for each >>>>> (opposite) direction left in place still produce a cardioid pattern if >>>>> switched toward those directions? I'd terminate the removed lines with >>>>> 75 >>>>> ohm terminations of course. >>>>> >>>>> I would leave the center element and the remaining 5 elements on the >>>>> circumference in place year round to minimize seasonal work if needed. >>>>> >>>>> 73 >>>>> >>>>> Jim ab3cv >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 22:45:32 -0000 >> From: "Roger Kennedy" < [email protected] > >> To: < [email protected] > >> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER " >> Message-ID: <2D0F563663244CC892DBC15664030A51@Packard> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . . >> >> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"? >> >> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . . . but >> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared to >> last year ! >> >> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . . . >> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high power >> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as >> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked) >> >> Roger G3YRO >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:48:54 +0200 >> From: uy0zg < [email protected] > >> To: Roger Kennedy < [email protected] > >> Cc: [email protected], Topband >> < [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER " >> Message-ID: < [email protected] > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> Roger >> >> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-)))) >> >> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests. >> >> >> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only two >> categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH). >> >> UW0K is not my callsign .............. >> >> >> --- >> Nick, UY0ZG >> http://www.topband.in.ua >> >> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45: >>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . . >>> >>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"? >>> >>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . . >>> . but >>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared >>> to >>> last year ! >>> >>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . . >>> . >>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high >>> power >>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as >>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked) >>> >>> Roger G3YRO >>> >>> _________________ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>> Reflector >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 08:07:35 +0200 >> From: uy0zg < [email protected] > >> To: Roger Kennedy < [email protected] > >> Cc: [email protected], Topband >> < [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER " >> Message-ID: < [email protected] > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> Roger >> >> >> another example of a "super" LOW performed by a fighter from the valiant >> US1Q brigade: >> >> Raw 2021 CQ WW CW Contest >> >> >> CW / UT2IV / Assisted Low 160 Meters >> 1 UT2IV..............74,820 >> >> And here's what the real HIGH looks like..... : >> >> CW / UY0ZG / Assisted High 160 Meters >> >> 2 UY0ZG..............70,799 >> >> 3 UX0KR..............69,012 >> >> --- >> Nick, UY0ZG >> http://www.topband.in.ua >> >> uy0zg ????? 2022-02-08 07:48: >>> Roger >>> >>> I probably don't know how to tell sad jokes.. :-)))) >>> >>> I didn't work LoW in any of the contests. >>> >>> >>> I think that for participants from Eastern European countries, only >>> two categories should be left (SINGLE HIGH and MULTI HIGH). >>> >>> UW0K is not my callsign .............. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Nick, UY0ZG >>> http://www.topband.in.ua >>> >>> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 00:45: >>>> Nick I really don't understand what point you are trying to make . . . >>>> >>>> Why do you think running High Power in a Contest is "harmful"? >>>> >>>> Sure, you had more QSOs in the CQ160 this year (running Low Power) . . >>>> . but >>>> you would expect that, as you were operating for 7 more hours compared >>>> to >>>> last year ! >>>> >>>> I agree that you don't need to run High Power to work around Europe . >>>> . . >>>> but if you want to work DX (such as W/VE) you really need to run high >>>> power >>>> in a Contest or most stations over there simply won't hear you ! (as >>>> demonstrated by the very few NA stations you worked) >>>> >>>> Roger G3YRO >>>> >>>> _________________ >>>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>>> Reflector >>> _________________ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>> Reflector >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 08:52:12 -0000 >> From: "Roger Kennedy" < [email protected] > >> To: < [email protected] > >> Subject: Topband: " LOW POWER " >> Message-ID: <36286A84A8374435A1F80C31B6949646@Packard> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic ! >> >> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest >> Callsign that YOU were using. >> >> 73 Roger G3YRO >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:05:54 +0200 >> From: uy0zg < [email protected] > >> To: Roger Kennedy < [email protected] > >> Cc: [email protected], Topband >> < [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Topband: " LOW POWER " >> Message-ID: < [email protected] > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >> >> Thank you for understanding me, Roger >> >> We will not surrender to them alive :-))))))))))))))))))) >> >> --- >> Nick, UY0ZG >> http://www.topband.in.ua >> >> Roger Kennedy ????? 2022-02-08 10:52: >>> Ah OK . . . apologies Nick, I didn't realise you were being sarcastic ! >>> >>> Plus I presumed that the other station's Callsign was a special Contest >>> Callsign that YOU were using. >>> >>> 73 Roger G3YRO >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>> Reflector >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Topband mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Topband Digest, Vol 230, Issue 9 >> *************************************** > > > -- > Dmitry Zaslavsky > Отправлено из Почты Mail.ru > > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
