Hey topbanders, nice condx first night here in ARRL 160m contest. In the first 3 hours from 5 UTC I worked 130 stations NA. The second night only 70. So, 200 QSOs from EU is for me a non expected result. I had a lot of fun. 73 Andy DR5X DL8LAS Gesendet von AOL auf Android Am So., Dez. 8, 2024 at 21:44 schrieb [email protected]<[email protected]>: Send Topband mailing list submissions to [email protected]
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Topband digest..." Today's Topics: 1. AA7JV/MM Contest (jon jones) 2. Re: Topband Contest- at sunrise (Jim Brown) 3. Re: AA7JV/MM Contest (Lee Dziekan) 4. Re: Topband Contest- at sunrise (Jim Brown) 5. Re: AA7JV/MM Contest (W7TMT - Patrick) 6. ARRL 160 at VE6WZ (VE6WZ_Steve) 7. Re: ARRL 160 at VE6WZ (Ve6wz) 8. Re: AA7JV/MM Contest (Don Kirk) 9. Re: AA7JV/MM Contest (W7TMT - Patrick) 10. Re: AA7JV/MM Contest (Tree) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 17:29:14 +0000 From: jon jones <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest Message-ID: <sj2pr20mb57778c9aa8a8735a67e1edf390...@sj2pr20mb5777.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" George ? you were very loud on my rain gutter antenna and thank you for the contact. You hear well! Despite a minimal antenna with high local noise and around 50 watts, I worked the following patient DX in the contest: DX: ZF9CW, KP4AA, PJ2T, AA7JV/MM & VP5M. Got on to hand out a few Qs to contestants while watching 6 for UT1FG/MM. No 80 or 160M antenna. Stations went in the log, I set a goal of 50. Then 100.... Forgot how fun and challenging 160M can be. Plan a better set up next year. * Jon N0JK KS ________________________________ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:57:09 -0500 From: "GEORGE WALLNER" <[email protected]> To: "W3HKK" <[email protected]>, "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest- at sunrise Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" I thought propagation was very good. MM in the Pacific from about 1400 miles west of Panama (in DJ76), I could hear EU, including R3 stations quite well. No man-made noise here, except my own. CU and 73, George AA7JV/MM -- Region 2 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 10:06:15 -0800 From: Jim Brown <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest- at sunrise Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 12/8/2024 6:08 AM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote: > Great conditions last night! Conditions were stinko all night Saturday in NorCal. As usual, east coast stations working EU with their 4-squares, ignoring US, and going to bed after the path to EU closed. This contest started as a Topband Sweepstakes. The 5X ratio for DX contacts turned it into a DX contest. Which is why there's so little participation from west of the Rockies. 73, Jim K9YC ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 18:32:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Lee Dziekan <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, jon jones <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I worked AA7JV/MM in the 160 contest. N1MM balked at entering 2 in the section field but a flag said to place an "R" in front of the number and N1MM logged the QSO. I tried submitting my 160 log to ARRL and got an error "copied exchange (itureg) is missing". What should the proper exchange format so the ARRL robot will accept my log? LeeN8LJ On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 12:36:19 PM EST, jon jones <[email protected]> wrote: George ? you were very loud on my rain gutter antenna and thank you for the contact. You hear well! Despite a minimal antenna with high local noise and around 50 watts, I worked the following patient DX in the contest: DX:? ZF9CW, KP4AA, PJ2T, AA7JV/MM & VP5M. Got on to hand out a few Qs to contestants while watching 6 for UT1FG/MM. No 80 or 160M antenna. Stations went in the log, I set a goal of 50. Then 100.... Forgot how fun and challenging 160M can be. Plan a better set up next year. ? * Jon N0JK KS ________________________________ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:57:09 -0500 From: "GEORGE WALLNER" <[email protected]> To: "W3HKK" <[email protected]>, "'[email protected]'" ? ? ? ? <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest-? at sunrise Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" I thought propagation was very good. MM in the Pacific from about 1400 miles west of Panama (in DJ76), I could hear EU, including R3 stations quite well. No man-made noise here, except my own. CU and 73, George AA7JV/MM -- Region 2 _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 10:34:00 -0800 From: Jim Brown <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest- at sunrise Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 12/8/2024 10:06 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > Conditions were stinko all night Saturday in NorCal. Another important point -- there was a LOT of "selective fading" both nights; I'd call someone on a peak, he'd respond, and by the time I responded with my exchange, I was in the mud. Same when stations called me. GOOD operators stuck with it, less experienced ones gave up, thinking the other op was a lid. Tutorial info: this fading is the low frequency version of "picket fencing" that VHF and UHF mobiles experience -- it's due to the peaking and cancellation as the signal arrives over two paths, and are varying degrees of in and out of phase. The only difference is wavelength, which changes the time interval of the fading. Being a great op is FAR more than being fast -- understanding how radio works is equally important. 73, Jim K9YC ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 18:43:43 +0000 From: W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> To: Lee Dziekan <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, jon jones <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest Message-ID: <bl0pr07mb79380ac9105e7556b1cfccc8f1...@bl0pr07mb7938.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There may be a disconnect between N1MM and the ARRL Robot. I had the same experience. The .log file output from N1MM creates the log with nothing in that field even though it prompts for the "R" when logging. The ARRL robot wants an "R#" entry. I manually edited the .log file by adding the R2 and the robot was pleased. GL Patrick, W7TMT -----Original Message----- From: Topband <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lee Dziekan via Topband Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32 To: [email protected]; jon jones <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest I worked AA7JV/MM in the 160 contest. N1MM balked at entering 2 in the section field but a flag said to place an "R" in front of the number and N1MM logged the QSO. I tried submitting my 160 log to ARRL and got an error "copied exchange (itureg) is missing". What should the proper exchange format so the ARRL robot will accept my log? LeeN8LJ On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 12:36:19 PM EST, jon jones <[email protected]> wrote: George ? you were very loud on my rain gutter antenna and thank you for the contact. You hear well! Despite a minimal antenna with high local noise and around 50 watts, I worked the following patient DX in the contest: DX:? ZF9CW, KP4AA, PJ2T, AA7JV/MM & VP5M. Got on to hand out a few Qs to contestants while watching 6 for UT1FG/MM. No 80 or 160M antenna. Stations went in the log, I set a goal of 50. Then 100.... Forgot how fun and challenging 160M can be. Plan a better set up next year. ? * Jon N0JK KS ________________________________ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:57:09 -0500 From: "GEORGE WALLNER" <[email protected]> To: "W3HKK" <[email protected]>, "'[email protected]'" ? ? ? ? <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest-? at sunrise Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" I thought propagation was very good. MM in the Pacific from about 1400 miles west of Panama (in DJ76), I could hear EU, including R3 stations quite well. No man-made noise here, except my own. CU and 73, George AA7JV/MM -- Region 2 _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 12:08:08 -0700 From: VE6WZ_Steve <[email protected]> To: topband <[email protected]> Subject: Topband: ARRL 160 at VE6WZ Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here at VE6WZ I worked 9 EU on Sunday night. Saturday was rather poor. Trans-polar signals had tremendous deep and fast QSB making QSOs a challenge, but those I called had good ears. Logged CT3, DL, G, HA, LY, OM, SM, UA and YL. John SM5EDX had a tremendous signal for over an hour, with only modest QSB. DR5X also strong at times. I heard UY0ZG with an excellent signal, for at least 3 CQ cycles, he gave me QRZ? and then he faded into oblivion. My RBN skimmer spotted numerous EU, which only happens when signals are good. I was only casually participating in the contest, and called CQ a few times to see if I could raise any other EU, but became overwhelmed by NA callers even with all of my RX at Europe. All NA and Carib were strong including EC. The morning sessions had many strong JA, a few HL and DU, but only heard one VK that called me after a JA QSO, but it was not my QRG. Steve, VE6WZ SUndre, AB ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 12:28:20 -0700 From: Ve6wz <[email protected]> To: topband <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160 at VE6WZ Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Correction?..of course it was Friday that was poor, last night, Saturday was best. Steve From Babcocks iPhone > On Dec 8, 2024, at 12:08?PM, VE6WZ_Steve <[email protected]> wrote: > > ?Here at VE6WZ I worked 9 EU on Sunday night. Saturday was rather poor. > Trans-polar signals had tremendous deep and fast QSB making QSOs a challenge, > but those I called had good ears. > Logged CT3, DL, G, HA, LY, OM, SM, UA and YL. > John SM5EDX had a tremendous signal for over an hour, with only modest QSB. > DR5X also strong at times. > I heard UY0ZG with an excellent signal, for at least 3 CQ cycles, he gave me > QRZ? and then he faded into oblivion. > My RBN skimmer spotted numerous EU, which only happens when signals are good. > > I was only casually participating in the contest, and called CQ a few times > to see if I could raise any other EU, but became overwhelmed by NA callers > even with all of my RX at Europe. All NA and Carib were strong including EC. > > The morning sessions had many strong JA, a few HL and DU, but only heard one > VK that called me after a JA QSO, but it was not my QRG. > > > Steve, VE6WZ > SUndre, AB > > > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 14:43:27 -0500 From: Don Kirk <[email protected]> To: W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> Cc: Lee Dziekan <[email protected]>, jon jones <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest Message-ID: <CAKtW65cdqP0tjGRQL-jp8vVLbaFUU8mRx+DKWQgKP7eAs2=s...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I manually edited the Cabrillo file and just entered a 2 for the received exchange where the section normally would be and the ARRL robot then no longer flagged an error. Don wd8dsb On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 2:25?PM W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: > There may be a disconnect between N1MM and the ARRL Robot. I had the same > experience. The .log file output from N1MM creates the log with nothing in > that field even though it prompts for the "R" when logging. The ARRL robot > wants an "R#" entry. I manually edited the .log file by adding the R2 and > the robot was pleased. > > GL > Patrick, W7TMT > > -----Original Message----- > From: Topband <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Lee Dziekan via Topband > Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32 > To: [email protected]; jon jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest > > I worked AA7JV/MM in the 160 contest. N1MM balked at entering 2 in the > section field but a flag said to place an "R" in front of the number and > N1MM logged the QSO. > I tried submitting my 160 log to ARRL and got an error "copied exchange > (itureg) is missing". What should the proper exchange format so the ARRL > robot will accept my log? > LeeN8LJ > On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 12:36:19 PM EST, jon jones < > [email protected]> wrote: > > George ? you were very loud on my rain gutter antenna and thank you for > the contact. You hear well! > > Despite a minimal antenna with high local noise and around 50 watts, I > worked the following patient DX in the contest: > > DX: ZF9CW, KP4AA, PJ2T, AA7JV/MM & VP5M. > > Got on to hand out a few Qs to contestants while watching 6 for UT1FG/MM. > No 80 or 160M antenna. Stations went in the log, I set a goal of 50. Then > 100.... > > Forgot how fun and challenging 160M can be. Plan a better set up next year. > > > * > Jon N0JK KS > > ________________________________ > > > Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:57:09 -0500 > From: "GEORGE WALLNER" <[email protected]> > To: "W3HKK" <[email protected]>, "'[email protected]'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest- at sunrise > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" > > I thought propagation was very good. > MM in the Pacific from about 1400 miles west of Panama (in DJ76), I could > hear EU, including R3 stations quite well. > > No man-made noise here, except my own. > CU and 73, > George > AA7JV/MM -- Region 2 > > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 19:57:19 +0000 From: W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> To: Don Kirk <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest Message-ID: <bl0pr07mb79385c7878b5a32805f75020f1...@bl0pr07mb7938.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Oh, interesting. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that since this contest uses ARRL Sections as the scoring basis and DX sends only the RST and nothing more, that no entry in that field in the log file was the likely correct answer and that assumption was reinforced by N1MM NOT outputting the R2 to that field in the .log file. I may have a bust, but it certainly won?t be the only one. Thanks for sharing that perspective. W7TMT From: Don Kirk <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:43 To: W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> Cc: Lee Dziekan <[email protected]>; jon jones <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest I manually edited the Cabrillo file and just entered a 2 for the received exchange where the section normally would be and the ARRL robot then no longer flagged an error. Don wd8dsb On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 2:25?PM W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There may be a disconnect between N1MM and the ARRL Robot. I had the same experience. The .log file output from N1MM creates the log with nothing in that field even though it prompts for the "R" when logging. The ARRL robot wants an "R#" entry. I manually edited the .log file by adding the R2 and the robot was pleased. GL Patrick, W7TMT -----Original Message----- From: Topband <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Lee Dziekan via Topband Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; jon jones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest I worked AA7JV/MM in the 160 contest. N1MM balked at entering 2 in the section field but a flag said to place an "R" in front of the number and N1MM logged the QSO. I tried submitting my 160 log to ARRL and got an error "copied exchange (itureg) is missing". What should the proper exchange format so the ARRL robot will accept my log? LeeN8LJ On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 12:36:19 PM EST, jon jones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: George ? you were very loud on my rain gutter antenna and thank you for the contact. You hear well! Despite a minimal antenna with high local noise and around 50 watts, I worked the following patient DX in the contest: DX: ZF9CW, KP4AA, PJ2T, AA7JV/MM & VP5M. Got on to hand out a few Qs to contestants while watching 6 for UT1FG/MM. No 80 or 160M antenna. Stations went in the log, I set a goal of 50. Then 100.... Forgot how fun and challenging 160M can be. Plan a better set up next year. * Jon N0JK KS ________________________________ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:57:09 -0500 From: "GEORGE WALLNER" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "W3HKK" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "'[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest- at sunrise Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" I thought propagation was very good. MM in the Pacific from about 1400 miles west of Panama (in DJ76), I could hear EU, including R3 stations quite well. No man-made noise here, except my own. CU and 73, George AA7JV/MM -- Region 2 _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 12:34:30 -0800 From: Tree <[email protected]> To: W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> Cc: Don Kirk <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest Message-ID: <cakf9hhaclt5uzsdaq83vjjsvrymwesbpb-_r91h7wcpqejl...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Actually - it doesn't matter. The message from the "robot" is just information - the QSO is still in the log and will be handled either with or without something after the 599. Tree N6TR On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 11:57?AM W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, interesting. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that since this contest > uses ARRL Sections as the scoring basis and DX sends only the RST and > nothing more, that no entry in that field in the log file was the likely > correct answer and that assumption was reinforced by N1MM NOT outputting > the R2 to that field in the .log file. I may have a bust, but it certainly > won?t be the only one. > > Thanks for sharing that perspective. > > W7TMT > > From: Don Kirk <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:43 > To: W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]> > Cc: Lee Dziekan <[email protected]>; jon jones <[email protected]>; > [email protected] > Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest > > I manually edited the Cabrillo file and just entered a 2 for the received > exchange where the section normally would be and the ARRL robot then no > longer flagged an error. > > Don wd8dsb > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 2:25?PM W7TMT - Patrick <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > There may be a disconnect between N1MM and the ARRL Robot. I had the same > experience. The .log file output from N1MM creates the log with nothing in > that field even though it prompts for the "R" when logging. The ARRL robot > wants an "R#" entry. I manually edited the .log file by adding the R2 and > the robot was pleased. > > GL > Patrick, W7TMT > > -----Original Message----- > From: Topband <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> On Behalf Of Lee Dziekan via Topband > Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:32 > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; jon jones < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: Topband: AA7JV/MM Contest > > I worked AA7JV/MM in the 160 contest. N1MM balked at entering 2 in the > section field but a flag said to place an "R" in front of the number and > N1MM logged the QSO. > I tried submitting my 160 log to ARRL and got an error "copied exchange > (itureg) is missing". What should the proper exchange format so the ARRL > robot will accept my log? > LeeN8LJ > On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 12:36:19 PM EST, jon jones < > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > George ? you were very loud on my rain gutter antenna and thank you for > the contact. You hear well! > > Despite a minimal antenna with high local noise and around 50 watts, I > worked the following patient DX in the contest: > > DX: ZF9CW, KP4AA, PJ2T, AA7JV/MM & VP5M. > > Got on to hand out a few Qs to contestants while watching 6 for UT1FG/MM. > No 80 or 160M antenna. Stations went in the log, I set a goal of 50. Then > 100.... > > Forgot how fun and challenging 160M can be. Plan a better set up next year. > > > * > Jon N0JK KS > > ________________________________ > > > Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:57:09 -0500 > From: "GEORGE WALLNER" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: "W3HKK" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "' > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Contest- at sunrise > Message-ID: <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" > > I thought propagation was very good. > MM in the Pacific from about 1400 miles west of Panama (in DJ76), I could > hear EU, including R3 stations quite well. > > No man-made noise here, except my own. > CU and 73, > George > AA7JV/MM -- Region 2 > > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _________________ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list [email protected] http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband ------------------------------ End of Topband Digest, Vol 264, Issue 8 *************************************** _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
