Dear Scott and Irene, Thank you for all of your help. I got TBC to allow me to paste things in after all. After my bought of frustration, I turned inward and noticed that I was actually not using the macro the same way as I had done before. So I re-traced my steps and dotted all of my t's and eye's, and it works great! I also juiced my RAM a bit.. but it was probably human error.
I learned a lot about the alternatives. Thanks for the help. I can paste things into "thing" again!!. Best, Leonard On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Scott Henninger <[email protected] > wrote: > Leonard; Adding restrictions can be done automatically in TBS, and > that may help with spending a lot of time re-arranging the > spreadsheet. Some other things that may help: > > << > Like I said, Irene's solution does not work when one wants to put > stuff in as subclasses of several different classes. I tried narrowing > done the place at which I did the import and none of it worked, though > it always worked in Thing, at least until I got lots of stuff in it. > >> > > It should work fine. Just make sure that the definition of the class > you are substituting the text for is the same. Multiple subClassOf > definitions will be handled properly. > > << > I have 12gigs of Ram and I allocated more of it to TBC as was > suggested a while ago. In fact I have the appropriate number well over > 2048..And it still bogs down. Should I give it some more? > >> > > I'm guessing that there are other issues, such as unresolved > references, that is slowing it down. 2Gb of memory should be enough > for 2000 classes with restrictions on each. > > << > I don't see how this can be done automatically with TBC. Basically I > have spreadsheets with class names in the first column and features of > the members of the class in the other columns. So I want to connect > the class to the properties of the members of the class. There is a > Spraql means of getting this done, but It would take several steps for > each property. > >> > > This is done quite often, and it just takes one query. A skeleton > example for a owl:hasValue restriction: > > CONSTRUCT > { ?cls rdfs:subClassOf _:b0 . > _:b0 a owl:Restriction ; > owl:hasValue ?valueType ; > owl:onProperty ?restrProp . > } > WHERE > { ?row :clsDefColumn ?cls ; #?cls := Man in example > :rPropTypeColumn ?rProp ; #?rProp := :hasGenus in example > :rValueType ?valueType . #??valueType := Mammal in > example > } > > << > I would not be using Sparql to manipulate class definitons in terms > of restrictions on poperties, as one cannot get that from a > spreadsheet imported into TBC. I would have to find all of the triples > that assert that a class has a property, construct a triple for each > such that the class is now a subclass or an equivalent class of a > restriction on a property, insert the new triple and delete the old > triple. > >> > > This is a normal use case for ApplyConstruct in SPARQLMotion in that > it can be used to create a set of triples from the graph pattern and > output only the newly created triples (there is a nice example in the > tutorial). The query would be similar to the above, except that the > WHERE clause would find all of the properties you wanted to perform > the transformation on. > > -- Scott > > On Mar 28, 3:55 pm, Leonard Jacuzzo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks Irene, > > I tried that... It did not work.. it just made everything a subclass of > what > > ever class I choose. Did that work for you? > > The problem is that I have over 2000 classes each of which gets a new > > subclass....so I cannot afford the food it would take to do that manually > > for each one. > > BTW: My example was contrived for simplicity and confidentiality. Imagine > > that I have 1000 different "blood sugers" that are inspec or out of spec > and > > I want each to get into the correct subclass.. > > > > I really think that the issue arises because of the amount of info I add > to > > TBC. The more that one puts in, the worse the program works. > > Maybe I will test this theory. > > > > Thanks for all of your help. > > Best, > > Leonard > > > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Irene Polikoff <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > It may be that the difference between working previously and > not-working > > > now > > > has to do with where Leonard did the editing. > > > > > Changing the source code for owl:Thing would result in a problem, but > if > > > one > > > were to select Blood_Sugar_ExHigh class and change the source code for > it, > > > the sub class statement would not disappear. > > > > > Irene Polikoff > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Henninger > > > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:31 PM > > > To: TopBraid Suite Users > > > Subject: [topbraid-users] Re: using source code in TBC > > > > > Leonard, first, to answer the question on whether this use case is a > > > supported, the answer is "no". TopBraid Suite, including TopBraid > > > Composer has a number of mechanisms for importing and including > > > existing RDF/RDFS/OWL constructs. In particular, if your scenario is > > > to move a definition from one model to another, I'd direct your > > > attention to Help > How to? > Refactor ontologies. > > > > > Holger also mentions using SPARQLMotion to import files and snippets > > > into your model. The is a very flexible > > > power tool that will support moving data from one model to another. > > > > > If you wish to work with "source code", i.e. a text serialization > > > format, I'd suggest using the Turtle syntax, which is more human- > > > readable and editable, and has better performance characteristics when > > > loading the text serialization. You can open a file in its text > > > serialization by right-clicking on a file in the Navigator viewer and > > > choosing Open With… > Text Editor. > > > > > Insofar as editing the Source Code sub-tab is concerned, it appears > > > you are attempting to replace the definition of owl:Thing with a class > > > definition. This would give the behavior you describe. Note that the > > > interface will only show the definitions the interface is able to > > > process correctly. If you need to see all of your data, either use > > > the Triples View (Window > Show View > Triples) or view the triples in > > > the SPARQL View (to get all triples, apply this query: SELECT * WHERE > > > {?s ?p ?o}). > > > > > For re-installing TBC, just unzip the download into a different > > > directory on your machine and run the executable from that directory > > > (i.e. there is no need to delete old versions). In terms of system > > > stability, make sure you don't edit any files in the TopBraid folder > > > in the workspace. If you let us know what the startup errors are, > > > we'd be happy to look into it (also let us know what version of TBC is > > > used and the OS it is installed on). > > > > > -- Scott > > > > > On Mar 28, 2:21 pm, Leonard Jacuzzo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Holger, > > > > I have two questions. First, I would like to completely uninstall and > > > > reinstall TBC on my machine. What is the best means of doing this. > > > Everytime > > > > I try it, there is some piece left over. For example, I still have > the > > > same > > > > workbench etc. I would like to completely reinstall TBC because it > has > > > been > > > > ganky for a while and now show errors on start up. > > > > > > The second question is the same as last night. I tried to paste on > the > > > > machine at work and had the same problems as at home. Here is my > detailed > > > > explanation. > > > > > > I start off with a file that contains the class for which I would > like to > > > > make a subclass. The code for that class is > > > > > > <owl:Class rdf:ID="Blood_Sugar_InSpec"> > > > > > > <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="#Blood_Sugar_Reading"/> > > > > > > </owl:Class> > > > > > > Then I create a long text file with hundreds strings that resemble > this: > > > > > > <owl:Class rdf:ID="Blood_Sugar_ExHigh" > " > > > > <rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="#Blood_Sugar_InSpec"/> > > > > <rdfs:subClassOf> > > > > <owl:Class> > > > > <owl:intersectionOf rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > <owl:Restriction> > > > > <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#Has_SL"/> > > > > <owl:someValuesFrom> > > > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > > > <owl:onDatatype > > > rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"/> > > > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > <rdf:Description> > > > > <xsd:minInclusive > > > rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > > > >0.0898</xsd:minInclusive> > > > > </rdf:Description> > > > > </owl:withRestrictions> > > > > </rdfs:Datatype> > > > > </owl:someValuesFrom> > > > > </owl:Restriction> > > > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > > > <owl:onDatatype > > > rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"/> > > > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > <rdf:Description> > > > > <xsd:maxExclusive > > > rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > > > >0.097</xsd:maxExclusive> > > > > </rdf:Description> > > > > </owl:withRestrictions> > > > > </rdfs:Datatype> > > > > </owl:intersectionOf> > > > > </owl:Class> > > > > </rdfs:subClassOf> > > > > </owl:Class> > > > > > > When I paste this string into the source code view for "thing" I end > up > > > with > > > > this: > > > > > > <owl:Class rdf:ID="Blood_Sugar_ExHigh"> > > > > > > <rdfs:subClassOf> > > > > > > <owl:Class> > > > > > > <owl:intersectionOf rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > > > <owl:Restriction> > > > > > > <owl:someValuesFrom> > > > > > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > > > > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > > > <rdf:Description> > > > > > > <xsd:minInclusive rdf:datatype=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > > > > > >0.2014</xsd:minInclusive> > > > > > > </rdf:Description> > > > > > > </owl:withRestrictions> > > > > > > <owl:onDatatype rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float > "/> > > > > > > </rdfs:Datatype> > > > > > > </owl:someValuesFrom> > > > > > > <owl:onProperty rdf:resource="#Has_CT"/> > > > > > > </owl:Restriction> > > > > > > <rdfs:Datatype> > > > > > > <owl:withRestrictions rdf:parseType="Collection"> > > > > > > <rdf:Description> > > > > > > <xsd:maxExclusive rdf:datatype=" > http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#float"; > > > > > > >0.211</xsd:maxExclusive> > > > > > > As you can see, the class that I inserted is no longer declared to be > a > > > > subclass of the class which I encoded as subclass. It gets stuck as a > > > > subclass of "thing" > > > > > > If I save this file in TBC, it erases all of the previous classes and > > > will > > > > only save the new "non-subclass" info. > > > > > > I just tried to accomplish the paste at work and it no longer works. > > > Which > > > > is strange because it worked on Friday. > > > > > > Here is a question. Is the method that I am attempting supposed to > work > > > as > > > I > > > > intend it to work? Can one paste source code for an ontology into the > > > source > > > > code field for "THING"? It was working like a charm and now does not. > > > > However, it is a super convenient means of adding a ton of stuff to > an > > > > ontology. I would love to continue as I was. > > > > > > I hope that I have given you enough information. (I have to make up > stuff > > > to > > > > show you as I can't show you the real deal) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Leonard > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Holger Knublauch > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Leonard Jacuzzo wrote: > > > > > > I will attempt to supply more information on the pasting problem > as I > > > > > find this most convenient. > > > > > > > > What sorts of information would you like? > > > > > > > A minimal, reproducible test scenario would be needed, e.g. start > with > > > file > > > > > A that has a couple of classes, then try to add file B and show me > > > where > > > > > data gets lost. 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