On 30/01/2016 5:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:


On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 12:23:27 AM UTC+1, Irene Polikoff wrote:

    James,

    Constructors are usually only evaluated once, to set initial
    default values to some properties of the instances. They are
    triggered by a creation of a new resource. One example is when you
    create a new resource in TBC, its label is automatically generated
    from the qname.

    Rules can be executed at any point by running TopSPIN inference
    engine. They are usually evaluated multiple times (although you
    can set a ‘single pass’ only) - as rules create new triples,
     additional evaluations can then result in more triples and so on.


my concern is not restricted to topbraid.
i am trying to understand how these definitions are intended to act, in general, in the course of sparql query and update processing.
given these two modes, above, is it correct that,
- when the definitions are intended to specify dynamic inferences, a processor would execute rules first, followed by constructors.

Constructors are only supported at creation time, and only in controlled environments such as the Create Resource dialogs of TBC. Otherwise they are ignored, so I would not consider them consistently supported.

Also, when you run queries, SPIN rules are not evaluated on the fly (dynamically), at least not with the current TopSPIN engine. Inferences can only be triggered explicitly, e.g. using the run inferences button in TBC. The former would require some kind of backward chaining which is difficult to implement for general SPARQL.

- when performing a sparql update, a processor would execute definitions which are intended to be materialized in the order, first rules, followed by constructors and as the last step it would run constraints?

The SPARQL update endpoint doesn't run any SPIN rules or constraint checks.


or, is there a distinction made between update rules and constructors, in the the rule form would be active during dynamic inference while the constructor form would apply when materializing?


does that cover all the intended applications?

I believe we need some information on what you are trying to achieve in general, as the questions above only provide us with a partial picture. A future (SPIN) engine could certainly support more than TopBraid currently does, and the spec is pretty vague on when inferences should be run, so there is freedom to add these capabilities.

Holger

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