Is there already a graph that imports all the key libraries (and any
critical information about which ones may be deprecated!) - you obviously
have one in your SWP -

is this SWP accessible and customisable - so for example I can hack a copy
to filter the list of functions by the argument and/or return type?

Can we set up a community project for interactive documentation with this
stuff in it so we can share our favourite hacks?




On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 12:04 Holger Knublauch <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> On 16/07/2018 13:29, Rob Atkinson wrote:
>
>
> The TBC reference looks like it is pretty close to that consolidated list
> - which is fine but it would be nice if it was a bit more tractable - it
> looks like its a ordered dump from graph
>
> The challenge is lack of context:
>
> e.g. TopBraid SPARQL Functions reference
>
>    - *spr:colWidth
>    
> <http://127.0.0.1:57911/help/ntopic/org.topbraidcomposer.core/html/smf.html#spr:colWidth>*:
>    Gets the width (in pixels) of a given column
>
> operates on a spr:Table - so a facted search on all functions that take an
> spr:Table as an argument, and have "col" in the description of an argument
> would give a fairly useful short list of relevant stuff.
>
> So is there already a view we could invoke to get an EDG faceted search
> over this?
>
>
> The complication with this documentation page in particular is that it
> includes features that are also available to users of TBC Standard and Free
> Editions. These editions do not include support for SWP. So the page is
> regenerated as a static HTML file for each release. Naturally we use SWP
> for this generation: Open any file with function definitions, navigate to
> spin:Function and switch to the Browser tab to see this in action. Having a
> static HTML file also means that the page will be indexed correctly in the
> Eclipse Help.
>
> Your specific query above would be best done in SPARQL because it would be
> hard to build a faceted search engine that is smart enough to walk from a
> function into its spin:constraint/spl:valueType triples - the values of
> interest are two "hops" away. We have tried our best to group similar
> functions into namespaces (here: spr) but some namespaces such as smf have
> become rather random collections of functions so it requires some reading
> to find a suitable function. Text search is a decent option if you look for
> keywords.
>
>
> Holger
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 11:34 Steveraysteveray <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> +++10 to this!
>>
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Rob Atkinson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> working through some SWA/SWP/EDG development I keep finding myself having
>> to context-switch between different styles and locations for functions.
>>
>> For SWP generally, http://uispin.org/ui.html
>> For SWA - its http://localhost:8083/tbl/swp?_viewClass=swadoc:Index
>> For teamwork - its
>> http://localhost:8083/tbl/swp?_viewClass=teamworkdoc:SPARQLFunctions
>>
>> then we have functions like smf:userWithName()  - i havent found where
>> these are documented at all yet,
>>
>> then then are SPARQLmotion functions -  these seem mainly available via
>> the TBC help system - maybe thats pulling in this
>> https://www.topquadrant.com/sparqlmotion/lib.html and restyling it?
>> Stiull havent found smf: and spif: yet ...
>>
>> The guide at
>> https://www.topquadrant.com/2010/01/05/how-to-write-new-sparql-functions-with-spin/
>> says "The “TopBraid SPARQLMotion Functions Library” page of TopBraid
>> Composer's online help lists ...
>>
>> but this is sadly not a link ..
>>
>> There seem to be libraries for spif: and spl: here
>> http://spinrdf.org/spif and here http://spinrdf.org/spl#   - but no
>> obvious links to documentation - and not finding it by google.
>>
>> also other namespaces for functions like afn:now()
>>
>> So, there seem to be at least 7 different libraries of useful stuff.  I
>> suspect there are more.
>>
>> what about magic properties and SPIN templates accessible to EDG
>> developers for instance.
>>
>> Should I favour one over another - can we at least enumerate these in
>> some sort of hierarchy of stability and support both within TQ and the
>> wider community?
>>
>> Could perhaps an index of all the non-deprecated functions be published
>> as a RDF file - and rendered as HTML where each function is referenced
>> along with a link to its appropriate online documentation, and ideally
>> relevant guides and tutorials?
>>
>>
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