Holger,

Thanks for the timely response.

For now, a simple rdfs:label solution would be OK.  My triples are being 
generated via an ETL and represent factual statements about the past.  Given 
that, I don’t have too much of a concern for using a label at triple-generation 
time.

As for alternative methods, I am definitely interested in SHACL rules - mostly 
to get some experience with them because I’ve long wanted this functionality 
and any experience working with them would be good.  Can we get a webinar or 
even a blog post about the use of SHACL rules within the TopBraid platform?

Yes, your example from owl:Time is right for me.  The only thing different is 
that the B-Node can be either an interval or an instant depending upon the 
source data from which the triples derived.

I can wait until 6.2 for the label functionality to work..

-Adam

On Jan 27, 2019, at 4:59 PM, Holger Knublauch 
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Hi Adam,

that's a good question, and a recurring issue. In 6.2 (which is consistently 
based on the new GraphQL-based API and SHACL), the label of blank nodes are 
derived consistently with other (named) resources: by their rdfs:label (or 
skos:prefLabel and other sub-properties of rdfs:label). So one approach - if 
possible - would be to have rdfs:labels in the blank nodes. That solution, 
however, would be best automated, e.g. by periodically executing rules to 
compute the rdfs:labels. For better or worse, at this stage, rdfs:labels that 
are backed by rules would not be computed on the fly as this would have some 
negative performance implications. So for now, rdfs:labels would need to be 
either periodically updated by rules, or maintained by hand.

Of course, the generation of rdfs:label values is somewhat redundant and 
brittle (in case the underlying triples change but the labels do not). Custom 
view widgets in SWP remain a possibility and will continue to work. They offer 
the greatest flexibility even for complex objects such as OWL time intervals. 
Use tosh:viewWidget to point at a custom widget.

As nothing is cast in stone yet (for 6.2 and beyond), I'd like to evaluate 
whether this can be further improved. For example, labels could be computed 
using SHACL property value rules

    
https://www.topquadrant.com/graphql/values.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.topquadrant.com_graphql_values.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU&r=c31WRmngRl-Ei5FxoVl5JYQYy1t5NE6gKgMbp1GhG5M&m=jEAjkPiZcnEbQLst_zm3rvTeMHePawK9ib9ZxcAW21c&s=rhYDDj19XhdV5_OTlx4bDgfARMGHhPdYYVIDXVSoze4&e=>

I am not familiar with the OWL time ontology, but is the following a typical 
use case for you?

ex:MyEvent
    a ex:Event ;
    rdfs:label "My Event" ;
    ex:duration [
        time:Interval ;
        time:hasBeginning [
            a time:Instant ;
            time:inXSDDate "1971-07-07"^^xsd:date ;
        ] ;
        time:hasEnd [
            a time:Instant ;
            time:inXSDDate "2020-01-04"^^xsd:date ;
        ]
    ] .

and maybe you would want such objects to be rendered as

My Event

    duration:        [ 07/07/1971 - 01/04/2020 ]


(The example highlights the apparent need for internationalization, arguing 
that rules should compute different values for @en-US than general @en where 
the date format is more regular. This of course further complicates the 
solution and would further impact performance if all those values are to be 
computed at display time).

Holger



On 26/01/2019 3:09 am, Adam Kimball wrote:
Hi all,

I have a dataset where owl:time is used to describe both intervals and 
instants.  When I come across these b-nodes in EDG, they are rendered in shaded 
boxes and really stand out.  Although I derive info from this layout, most of 
our users won't.

I'm wondering how I might override the rendering, ideally with the use of a 
shape.  For instance, if the b-node is time:Interval then show begin/end if it 
is an time:Instant just show that one time.  I could probably hack together a 
SPIN/SWP solution but I think the UI has moved on from this.   What's the 
recommendation?  Any system usages I might want to examine?

Thanks,
Adam
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