Thanks Irene !

Simon

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 at 10:05:14 AM UTC+10, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>
> Business terms in a glossary are typically expected to be mapped to some 
> logical or physical data elements. The use case is to create some common 
> set of business definitions (e.g., customer ID) and connect them to data 
> sources that store customer IDs and, more specifically to the data elements 
> in the source that store them. 
>
> Further, business glossaries typically capture business rules about these 
> assets e.g., customer ID is always 9 characters, etc. And other information 
> that applies to data mapped to the term irrespective of where is stored. 
> For example, the fact that email addresses are personally identifiable 
> information, that certain regulations apply to data that corresponds to the 
> term, etc. 
>
>
> On May 21, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Simon Opper <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks very much for your advice Irene.
>
> My feeling is that non-technical SMEs favour to work on flat vocab/term 
> lists in glossary and introducing even a simple taxonomy and minimal skos 
> concepts weeds out many people, placing the job of hierarchical taxonomy 
> development more with technical users and a knowledge architect to bring it 
> together. This use case was what was driving me to be able to easily work 
> with non-tech users in a glossary but then pull it into more structured 
> assets over time with maximum re-use out of the box. Your simple 
> suggestions help me do that. 
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 5:01:13 PM UTC+10, Simon Opper wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I'm looking to sanity check my understanding of the re-use of terms 
>> between taxonomies, glossaries, other assets and ontologies in EDG.
>>
>> If I understand the EDG documentation correctly:
>>
>>    - glossary terms can trace to other terms via the "traces to" 
>>    property - ok and have this working
>>    - glossary terms can be mapped to another data asset type by the 
>>    "maps to term" property - ok and have this working
>>
>> But I'm unclear on how to re-use glossary terms (in a bidirectional) way 
>> with taxonomy.
>>
>>    - adding a taxonomy to the includes of a glossary doesn't bring the 
>>    concepts in.
>>    - adding a glossary to the includes of a taxonomy also doesn't bring 
>>    in terms in the opposite direction.
>>
>> I'm guessing a result of the import rules between the two model 
>> ontologies.
>>
>> Sure, the taxonomy can be exported as a spreadsheet and imported into a 
>> glossary but this seems against the grain and disconnects the two assets.
>>
>>
>>    1. So.... is there a recommended approach or workflow to develop 
>>    glossary, taxa and other asset types ?  e.g. begin at glossary, add some 
>>    shapes??, import/include to taxonomy and then consume in other assets 
>>    2. Is there a direct way extract/annotate/use shapes/magic 
>>    properties/transform taxa and glossaries to inter-operate with each other 
>> ?
>>
>>
>> Finally, regarding ontologies and asserting classes as skos concepts I've 
>> done some reading, gone down the rabbit hole and come back out with the 
>> understanding that avoid to messy and un-intended entailment issues this 
>> type of assertion is to be avoided.
>>
>> So leaving class and skos assertions behind:
>>
>> 3. how then does one re-use the labels from a glossary or taxonomy when 
>> developing ontologies ? It seems manual to me so far unless I'm missing 
>> something.
>>
>> 4.Can existing taxa or gloss labels be made available to pick at the time 
>> of ontology class, property and attribute creation ?
>>
>>
>> Once an ontology is created, I assume but haven't got on to testing, that 
>> cross walks and/or EDG search can perform some entity matching and 
>> recommendation. Hence hopefully close the loop back to gloss or taxa terms. 
>> Is this right ?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance !
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
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