Thanks again Irene,

I have tested the export service and it has worked just fine. I would just 
want to clarify one last thing. When I was referring to viewing information 
stored in Stardog, I was thinking of assertions not schemas. From your 
answer, I believe we should use Data Graph for that and nothing else. Right?

Regards
Daniel

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 9:29:33 AM UTC-4, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>
> Please see responses below
>
> On Jul 31, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Daniel Lavoie <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Hi Irene,
>
> Thanks for your fast answer yesterday. It has helped me clarifiy the 
> situtation.  And I would like to explain you more what we are trying to do.
>
> The overall goal is to make our  design and governance environment (TBC 
> and EDG) and our implementation environment (Stardog and Semaphore) 
> communicate together. 
>
>
> OK. As an aside, TopBraid EDG offers a module for content tagging 
> https://www.topquadrant.com/products/topbraid-tagger-autoclassifier/
>
> First, let's talk about going from EDG to Stardog.
>
> For example, we want to propagate the ontologies finalized in EDG to our 
> Stardog Triple Store. And we want to use GIT, in the middle, to version 
> control the ontologies and package them with the other objects in releases. 
> So in summary, we want to go from EDG to GIT and finally to Stardog.  
>
> In EDG, there is an Export function that allow us to get a turtle file for 
> each ontology.  Is there any API we can use to execute the export function? 
> Or is there a way to get directly in GIT?
>
>
> Pretty much everything you can do in EDG UI is available as a service. 
> When you click on Export -> Turtle, note the URI in the browser. It will be 
> something like:
>
>
> http://localhost:8083/tbl/sparqlmotion?_base=urn%3Ax-evn-master%3Ageography_ontology&id=ExportToRDF&projectGraph=urn%3Ax-evn-master%3Ageography_ontology&serialization=http%3A%2F%2Ftopbraid.org%2Fsparqlmotionlib%23Turtle
>  
> <http://localhost:8083/tbl/sparqlmotion?_base=urn:x-evn-master:geography_ontology&id=ExportToRDF&projectGraph=urn:x-evn-master:geography_ontology&serialization=http://topbraid.org/sparqlmotionlib#Turtle>
>
> This is the API you can use.
>
> The beginning has server address. I used localhost.
>
> Then, you have the URIs of the asset collection (graph) you are exporting 
> as the value of base and projectGraph parameters. I used the example geo 
> ontology that is available in the samples project.
>
>
> Also, we a re going to use named graphs to store the ontologies in 
> Stardog. We are not going to create a different graph for each ontology but 
> we will group them logically. Is there a way to indicate in EDG in which 
> named graph an ontology should be loaded in the target triple store?
>
>
> I would create a new property to capture this for an ontology in EDG.
>
>
> Second, the other way around, we would like to make Stardog data viewable 
> in EDG. For example, to allow our governance team to profile the 
> information. Should we use data graphs for that? Or what else would you 
> suggest?
>
>
> If the data is in SKOS and follows assumptions EDG puts on the use of 
> SKOS, then you could use Taxonomies. Assumptions are: 1. There is a 
> concepts scheme and it has some top concepts; 2. skos:broader (as opposed 
> to narrower) is used for the hierarchical relationship
>
> If the data is reference data and follows assumptions EDG puts on 
> reference data, then you could use Reference Datasets. Assumption is: 1. 
> Each resource has a property that is locally unique - a code and URI of the 
> resource is derived from this value
>
> Otherwise, Data Graphs is the most general type of asset collection that 
> can be used for arbitrary data.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:36:54 AM UTC-4, Irene Polikoff wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> TopBraid EDG needs to apply rules for permission management, support 
>> workflows (virtual sandboxes), audit trails, infer new values, validate 
>> data, dynamically combine graphs using owl:imports, generate lineage 
>> presentation and perform other types of business logic. It is not practical 
>> to implement this functionality using plain SPARQL as the only API to a 
>> database. 
>>
>> Thus, for EDG to work on top of multiple triple stores a different 
>> solution would need to be implemented for each one - taking into account 
>> its specific capabilities, supported functions, APIs, etc.. At the moment 
>> we only support two options for EGD Repository: Apache Jena TDB (two 
>> flavors) or a triple store based on RDBMS of your choice. The latter is for 
>> smaller deployments.
>>
>> Current RDF databases landscape has many options with no clear market 
>> leader. From the roadmap perspective, we are monitoring market 
>> developments. If a leader emerges that captures over 50% of the market, we 
>> plan to support it as a repository option in EDG.
>>
>> Today, EDG can offer a solution where data is located in its repository 
>> as well as in another triple store. Using EDG Data Platform (replication 
>> server - https://www.topquadrant.com/technology/topbraid-data-platform/), 
>> changes in the data in EDG will be automatically synchronized (pushed) to 
>> an external triple store as micro transactions. 
>>
>> If there are also changes in data relevant to EDG that are being made 
>> directly to the remote triple store outside of EDG and real time 
>> replication is important, then the store would need to provide some change 
>> services to plugin to the replication framework or have some other means of 
>> updating EDG.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Daniel Lavoie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We want to use our triple store database as the EDG repository. We are 
>> using Stardog version 6.1.0. I have tried to find how to setup an external 
>> triple store as EDG's repository but I was not really successful. 
>>
>> I have seen the Application data storage section in the documention but 
>> found nothing that is not referring to either TBD or Marklogic databases. 
>> What about the others and Stardog specifically?
>>
>> Could you please provide the installation and configuration steps. Or 
>> point me to the right documentation.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daniel
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