Ok
I remember doing the same for unit in the past indeed!




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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

Michel,
Try declaring QuantityKind a subclass of rdfs:Datatype

Steve



On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 12:04 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
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Sounds great Steve!
Will do testing asp.

Small quick question:
What would be the simplest way to be able to use te quantitykinds as datatypes?
(we now use CDT/UCUM here but I want to have aQUDT2.1 alternative/replacement).

So I can do:
:MyInstance :height “12.5 M”^^quantitykind:Length .

(earlier for qudt the unit was used that way in one of the use casese:
:MyInstance :height “12.5”^^unit:M .
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Michel,

The URIs have been cleaned up, so now you can resolve the prefixes, and none of 
them contain the extraneous "all".

Steve


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All clear, thx

And yes link works here too so example was not ok

Guess your system works but still the all’s might better go making baseURIs and 
prefix the same?

Greetings Michel






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Hi Michel,
Yes, those imported 2.0 graphs haven't changed so their inclusion is 
intentional.

Regarding the URI names that use the "all" in them, that is something I'm 
working on right now so that indeed the base URIs and the prefixes and 
dereferenceable. I'm a little surprised at your example,

For example: unit:M (http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/M)
...because the link works fine for me, both from a browser, and from a terminal 
using curl.


Steve


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Hi Steve,

When I go to: http://www.qudt.org/2.1/catalog/qudt-catalog.html

I see still see 2.0 stuff (maybe intentional)

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Furthermore when I download unit/all:

Normally my baseURIs are the same as the prefixes (well apart from a / or #).
So currently,

For example: unit:M (http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/M)

Cannot be found (is not dereferenceable).

Better to adapt base URIs? Delete the “all”-part? Same for quantities...

Gr Michel







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Michel,
When did you last test the links? I'm getting the following results:
Clicking the "Turtle" button for units in the 2.1 catalog delivers 
qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit/all<http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit/all>, which begins 
with:

# baseURI: http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit/all

# imports: http://qudt.org/2.0/schema/qudt/science

# imports: http://qudt.org/2.1/schema/qudt

# imports: http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/quantitykind/all

# imports: http://www.linkedmodel.org/schema/vaem
Is your comment about the 2.0 version of 
http://qudt.org/2.0/schema/qudt/science? We haven't updated that part of the 
schema, so it is still 2.0.

Regarding your second question, perhaps you can help me figure out the 
following issue:

We want the unit: prefix to expand to http://qudt.org/vocab/unit
…and the quantitykind prefix to expand to http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind

On our website, the folder structure is:

qudt.org<http://qudt.org>/
    vocab/
        unit/
            all (the ttl file containing the unit graph)
            A (the ttl file containing the definition of the Ampere)
            A-HR (the ttle file containing the definition of the Ampere-Hour)
            …etc

This structure therefore supports dereferencing:
qudt.org/vocab/unit/all<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/all> for the units graph
qudt.org/vocab/unit/A<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/A> for the definition of the 
Ampere
etc.

My problem is that the URI http://qudt.org/vocab/unit alone, dereferences to 
the folder that contains the other files (all, A, A-HR, etc…)
I think I would have to do some sort of redirection of the web server to make 
http://qudt.org/vocab/unit return the “all” file.

…and I’m not expert enough in web server configuration to know how to do that. 
Do you know how?

Steve


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(late reply because of holidays...)

Dear Steve,
That is good news!

Some questions:

1-when I download the unit ttl it is still called 2.0 iso 2.1, is that ok?
2-IN the file the unit prefix is http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/ ... how is this 
related to the new base URI? Is it really dereferenceable this way?

I see it’s different for quantitikinds...this seems to work...why mot the same 
for units: ie use prefix:
http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit/all for unit
(I see it IS available)

Thx Michel






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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] Re: qudt revisited

Hi Michel and Anne,
Please take another look at qudt.org<http://qudt.org>, and check out our 
Release 2.1
I have been busy organizing things there, and now all our units and quantity 
kinds are dereferenceable.
I'm currently working on the dimension vectors.
I'm hoping that what is published is at least consistent (in terms of qnames), 
and am focusing on getting a core set of units, quantity kinds and dimension 
vectors available.
Then we will go back and clean up. Please let me know if there are key units or 
quantity kinds that you are particularly interested in.

 - Steve Ray

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Thank you, Michel.   If the underlying resources are not available, that also 
seems like a barrier.

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I will.
Complexity is ok imho, it’s just that it takes so long to have the resources 
available/online.






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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Namens AW
Verzonden: woensdag 17 juli 2019 17:06
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Hi Michel,

Just writing to say that I'm interested in following your experience with QUDT. 
   We looked into using it at one point.    The complexity was daunting, and we 
decided against it for something much simpler of our own design.   I hope 
you'll post further about your experience.

Anne
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