Hi Steve, David

I am for now interested in  the machine-access (TBC) of the latest version.
So I use the <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/M> uri
(see latest example2 file)

Still in TBC I see the globe icon for unit:M.

I am unsure whether this is ok/tobeexpected.

I reasoned: now tbc can find the unit:M (in the ttl because of the server 
negotiation) it will not show the globe anymore.

Maybe I think wrong, or even modelled/used the unit wrong.
(I corrected the prefx # to / but that did not change the situation).

Thx for advice, Michel






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Steve Ray
Verzonden: Friday, September 13, 2019 8:04 PM
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Onderwerp: Re: [topbraid-users] RE: dereferencing ok?

Michel,
I believe the difference you are seeing is because of how you reference the 
definition.

When you ask for http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit, you get a graph with base URI 
of http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit
In that graph, unit:M specifies:
rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit> ;

When you ask for http://qudt.org/vocab/unit, you get "the latest version" of 
the graph, with base URI of http://qudt.org/vocab/unit
In that graph, unit:M specifies:
rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit> ;
rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit> ;

This is as I intended, because both statements are true, since 2.1 is the 
latest version at present.

The QUDT 2.1 catalog at http://www.qudt.org/2.1/catalog/qudt-catalog.html is 
intended for a human audience, and it shows you the 2.1 version of definitions 
via html pages. (You can also visit earlier versions of the catalog from the 
QUDT homepage at http://qudt.org/)
The resolvable URIs for "unit" discussed earlier in this message are intended 
for a machine audience, where Turtle files are delivered rather than html files.

I'm open to suggestions from the community as to how this should behave if not 
the above.

Steve



On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 4:00 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
<topbraid-users@googlegroups.com<mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Ok, I found: its untyped.

But is this to be expected?

In example I have:

ex2:ClearOpeningHeight_1
  a ex2:ClearOpeningHeight ;
  bs:hasUnit unit:M ;
  bs:hasValue 2.40 ;
.

Where the not-imported resource is:
@prefix unit: <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit#<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit>> .

This unit gets me to a file on the web in which is defined:

<http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/M>
  a <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/BaseUnit> ;
  a <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/LengthUnit> ;
  a <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/MKS-Unit> ;
  a <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/Unit> ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/abbreviation> "m" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/code> "1090" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/conversionMultiplier> "1"^^xsd:double ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/conversionOffset> "0.0"^^xsd:double ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/description> "The metric and SI base unit of 
distance.   The meter is equal to approximately 1.093 613 3 yards, 3.280 840 
feet, or 39.370 079 inches."^^rdf:HTML ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/hasQuantityKind> 
<http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/Length> ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/id> "U000E1090" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/longDescription> "The metric and SI base unit of 
distance.  The 17th General Conference on Weights and Measures in 1983 defined 
the meter as that distance that makes the speed of light in a vacuum equal to 
exactly 299 792 458 meters per second. The speed of light in a vacuum, $c$, is 
one of the fundamental constants of nature. The meter is equal to approximately 
1.093 613 3 yards, 3.280 840 feet, or 39.370 079 inches." ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/symbol> "m" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/ucumCaseInsensitiveCode> "M" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/ucumCaseSensitiveCode> "m" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/ucumCode> "M" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/ucumCode> "m" ;
  <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/uneceCommonCode> "MTR" ;
  rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit> ;
rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit> ;
  rdfs:label "Meter" ;
  <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#exactMatch> 
<http://dbpedia.org/resource/Metre> ;
  <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#prefLabel> "meter" ;
  <http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#wasInfluencedBy> 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre?oldid=495145797> ;
.



Ps Steve, the file above is diff. from the one, one could download:

IN HERE it says (using the prefix):

unit:M
  a qudt:BaseUnit ;
  a qudt:LengthUnit ;
  a qudt:MKS-Unit ;
  a qudt:Unit ;
  qudt:abbreviation "m" ;
  qudt:code "1090" ;
  qudt:conversionMultiplier "1"^^xsd:double ;
  qudt:conversionOffset "0.0"^^xsd:double ;
  qudt:description "The metric and SI base unit of distance.   The meter is 
equal to approximately 1.093 613 3 yards, 3.280 840 feet, or 39.370 079 
inches."^^rdf:HTML ;
  qudt:hasQuantityKind quantitykind:Length ;
  qudt:id "U000E1090" ;
  qudt:longDescription "The metric and SI base unit of distance.  The 17th 
General Conference on Weights and Measures in 1983 defined the meter as that 
distance that makes the speed of light in a vacuum equal to exactly 299 792 458 
meters per second. The speed of light in a vacuum, $c$, is one of the 
fundamental constants of nature. The meter is equal to approximately 1.093 613 
3 yards, 3.280 840 feet, or 39.370 079 inches." ;
  qudt:symbol "m" ;
  qudt:ucumCaseInsensitiveCode "M" ;
  qudt:ucumCaseSensitiveCode "m" ;
  qudt:ucumCode "M" ;
  qudt:ucumCode "m" ;
  qudt:uneceCommonCode "MTR" ;
  rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://qudt.org/2.1/vocab/unit> ;
  rdfs:label "Meter" ;
  skos:exactMatch <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Metre> ;
  skos:prefLabel "meter" ;
  prov:wasInfluencedBy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre?oldid=495145797> ;
.













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Van: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
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Verzonden: Friday, September 13, 2019 12:33 PM
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Onderwerp: [topbraid-users] dereferencing ok?

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What is the exact meaning of the world before unit:M?
- ok, found but not imported, available on the web, or
- not found

(I am in transition from qudt2.0 to 2.1..from impprting to referencing, and now 
wondering if things are ok...)

When I change unit to say non-existing MZ situation is the same so that does 
not tell me much (only that my unit:M is not found yet too).

Thx for advice,
Michel

Ps code attached. Example using upper ont. Basicsemantics (not importing now 
qudt2.1 stuff).






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