RE: [topbraid-users] tight link tbc > edg ?

Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:24:08 -0800 



On Jan 29, 2020, at 11:55 AM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I run edg from tbc locally.
My ontology has also data.
Changes via tbc seem not automatic in edg view...but i will retest/check….

If your ontology in EDG has owl:imports to a local file, any changes to the 
file will show up in that ontology automatically.

> ok, but if I create an ontology in edg. Then import an rdffile from 
> workspace. And this rdf changes because of editing via tbc.
> will the ontology in edg than also change?
> (I could remember a trick I think from holger that was making an empty evn 
> ontology that imported the real stuff...so I thought that could be 
> related...but it did not work this time...)

The use case for this is files are expected to be pretty static and remain as 
files because it is important that they are static. For example, pre-built EDG 
ontologies are shipped as files in the workspace.

What are you doing in EDG if you are editing in TBC

> edg is way more user-friendly to show thinks to non-LD people.....
> so I use it as a pub.medium





Maybe i should select ont in tbc and then somthing like open in edg?

No, you can’t open a file in EDG. EDG works with data that is in the triple 
store.

>sorry I meant: can I open a file IN TBC with function “open in EDG” ...



Op 29 jan. 2020 17:42 schreef Irene Polikoff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
To add to David’s reply

If you have an ontology in EDG, it is not a file. It is a graph in the EDG 
triple store.

1. You can run EDG locally from TBC. In this case, EDG and TBC share the same 
workspace
2. Normally, EDG is installed on a server and its workspace is different from 
your local TBC workspace.

In either situation, you can clear EDG ontology and re-import (physically load) 
RDF file - from your local workspace or from any file directory you have access 
to.

If this does not work for you, I have no explanation. It most definitely works.

Further,  EDG ontology could contain owl:imports statement to a file in the 
workspace. You would not, of course, be able to change anything in that 
imported file in EDG because it would just be included by reference. You could 
“build on top of it” e.g., create subclasses. You can make changes to it in TBC.

If you are running EDG locally from TBC, then any changes you make to the file 
in a workspace referenced by owl:imports will be automatically reflected in 
EDG. Having said this, if you use other graphs to store instances of classes 
defined in this file, the fact that something has changed in the class 
definition may not be picked up by EDG and the schemas used for data would not 
be regenerated. I have not tried this, so I am not sure. If this is a problem. 
Making any change in the ontology in EDG would trigger regeneration.

If you are running EDG from the server, then, as David explained, you will need 
to re-deploy your changed file to the server.


On Jan 29, 2020, at 11:19 AM, dprice 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Michel,

Depends on what you mean:

Do you mean running EDG from TBC? If so, EDG sees everything in your workspace.

Do you mean using ontologies in EDG that are not under the Ontologies asset 
collection type in EDG, so whether from TBC or not does not matter? If so, then 
probably best to Deploy a Project to EDG that contains the full suite of 
ontologies that can be used by other asset collections in EDG. Export the 
project from Composer into a zip file and Upload Project from the System Admin 
page.

Do you mean you have ontologies that are under the Ontologies asset collection 
type in EDG but you are making changes outside of EDG? In that case, are you 
also making changes using EDG (a more complicated approach)?  FWIW I use Manage 
tab and Clear and then Import RDF regularly and it works fine.

Cheers,
David


On 29 Jan 2020, at 16:04, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


How can I best link my TBC ontology to EDG?

After changes via TBC I like to do some refresh in EDG (=clear+re-import).

I thought I’ll do:
# baseURI: http://knowledge.tno.nl/alim-import
# imports: http://knowledge.tno.nl/alim

@prefix : <http://knowledge.tno.nl/alim#<http://knowledge.tno.nl/alim>> .
@prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#<http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl>> .
@prefix rdf: 
<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns>>
 .
@prefix rdfs: 
<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema>> .
@prefix xsd: 
<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema>> .

<http://knowledge.tno.nl/alim-import>
  a owl:Ontology ;
  owl:imports <http://knowledge.tno.nl/alim> ;
  owl:versionInfo "Created with TopBraid Composer" ;
.

Import alim-import one time.
So I can just do reimport...but that does not update the contents it seems.

Thx for the right approach,
Michel





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