> On 7 May 2020, at 13:05, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
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> Indeed, quite some dead links there from w3c...
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> Will focus more on TriG in our specs .... (when multigraph serial. is needed)

Makes sense and FWIW we have other customers with recent interest in TriG. 

For example, one customer project provided large-ish test data via TriG giving 
me the chance to test the coming EDG 6.4 TriG importer- it worked well in that 
test/debug scenario.

Cheers,
David

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> On 7 May 2020, at 11:34, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users 
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> Coming back to this one..
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> Isnt there any offcial w3c spec for trix like for trig?
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> No, it was not worked through the W3C WGs - “by HP Labs and Nokia” and 
> “Copyright Hewlett-Packard Company 2004” are the provenance.
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> Right, I forgot TriG is not the only Quads format so I have generalized the 
> importer to include TriX and N-Quads too.
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> On 8/04/2020 17:50, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote:
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> Great!
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> (I recently got from partners a large TriG file and asked them to split in 
> turtles...)
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> Similar plans for TriX? (did not get questions for that but guess issue is 
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> On 7/04/2020 12:01, Holger Knublauch wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> I am not aware of decent support for Trig within TBC. The issue is that each 
> named graph that can be referenced by TB requires a file in the workspace. So 
> even if we were to load the quads into a TDB, we'd still need to add code 
> that produces TDB connector files (.xdb). Or, split it into multiple TTL 
> files. In the latter case, I guess a 3rd party tool could be used too.
> For the time being, I have filed an internal development ticket (reference: 
> TBS-2841) to improve on that in the future.
> BTW this is now implemented and will be part of TBC 6.4. It will take a TriG 
> file and produce Turtle files for each sub-graph. From TBC you could then use 
> project upload to get the data into EDG. This is for TBC only at this stage 
> as it's common that some post-processing may be needed, e.g. to clean up the 
> default graph.
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> Do you have any work-around in the meantime?
> Holger
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> On 7/04/2020 02:16, Adam Kimball wrote:
> Hi all, 
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> Hope this email finds you safe and well during these crazy times.
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> I have a need to work with some TRIG files.  Since I've become so used to 
> doing my development work in TBC, I'd very much like to find a way to work 
> with them.  Searching this list and the web, I don't get the feeling that 
> there are many options but I thought it would be worth asking.  
>  
> One idea I had is to try and import a TRIG file into a Jena TDB (using 
> Import->Import RDF Files into new TDB) but this results in an exception from 
> deep within Jena (see below).   This happens with any of the examples from 
> the TRIG spec.  Running on 6.3.0.
>  
> I'm curious what other approaches I might want to investigate.  My ultimate 
> goal is running SPARQL queries across the named graphs defined in the TRIG 
> files.
>  
> ---
> Reason:
> java.lang.NullPointerException
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.ext.com.google.common.base.Preconditions.checkNotNull(Preconditions.java:882)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.ext.com.google.common.cache.LocalCache.getIfPresent(LocalCache.java:3948)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.ext.com.google.common.cache.LocalCache$LocalManualCache.getIfPresent(LocalCache.java:4859)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.atlas.lib.cache.CacheGuava.containsKey(CacheGuava.java:81)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.atlas.lib.cache.CacheSetImpl.contains(CacheSetImpl.java:72)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.nodetable.NodeTableCache.cacheLookup(NodeTableCache.java:176)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.nodetable.NodeTableCache._idForNode(NodeTableCache.java:141)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.nodetable.NodeTableCache.getAllocateNodeId(NodeTableCache.java:91)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.nodetable.NodeTableWrapper.getAllocateNodeId(NodeTableWrapper.java:40)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.nodetable.NodeTableInline.getAllocateNodeId(NodeTableInline.java:51)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.nodetupletable.NodeTupleTableConcrete.addRow(NodeTupleTableConcrete.java:85)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.tdb.store.bulkloader.LoaderNodeTupleTable.load(LoaderNodeTupleTable.java:106)
>                 at 
> org.topbraidcomposer.tdb.wizards.loader.Loader$StreamRDF_TDBLoad.quad(Loader.java:172)
>                 at org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTriG.emit(LangTriG.java:266)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.emitTriple(LangTurtleBase.java:486)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.objectList(LangTurtleBase.java:352)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.predicateObjectItem(LangTurtleBase.java:288)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.predicateObjectList(LangTurtleBase.java:269)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.triples(LangTurtleBase.java:250)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.triplesSameSubject(LangTurtleBase.java:191)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTriG.bracedGraph(LangTriG.java:213)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTriG.oneNamedGraphBlock2(LangTriG.java:137)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTriG.oneTopLevelElement(LangTriG.java:49)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangTurtleBase.runParser(LangTurtleBase.java:91)
>                 at org.apache.jena.riot.lang.LangBase.parse(LangBase.java:41)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.RDFParserRegistry$ReaderRIOTLang.read(RDFParserRegistry.java:191)
>                 at org.apache.jena.riot.RDFParser.read(RDFParser.java:352)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.RDFParser.parseNotUri(RDFParser.java:342)
>                 at org.apache.jena.riot.RDFParser.parse(RDFParser.java:291)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.RDFParserBuilder.parse(RDFParserBuilder.java:506)
>                 at 
> org.apache.jena.riot.RDFDataMgr.parseFromInputStream(RDFDataMgr.java:870)
>                 at org.apache.jena.riot.RDFDataMgr.parse(RDFDataMgr.java:693)
>                 at 
> org.topbraidcomposer.tdb.wizards.loader.Loader.loadFromFiles(Loader.java:107)
>                 at 
> org.topbraidcomposer.tdb.wizards.loader.TDBLoaderWizard$1.run(TDBLoaderWizard.java:76)
>                 at 
> org.eclipse.jface.operation.ModalContext$ModalContextThread.run(ModalContext.java:119)
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> Adam
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