On 2021-09-05 3:38 am, Scott Henninger wrote:
Unfortunately we do not have SPARQL support for SHACL, as we use an old version of Semaphore. Maybe someday in the future.

In the meantime, what about if we drop the sub-property triple pattern and have a known set of (or single) properties? Can that be expressed in SHACL? Particularly the part about targeting multiple classes and multiple parent classes.

Ok, if the properties are known you can use a pattern such as

    sh:path [ sh:alternativePath ( ex:prop1 ex:prop2 ex:prop3 ) ] ;  # ex:prop1|ex:prop2|ex:prop3

The rest could roughly be

ex:Shape
    a sh:NodeShape ;
    sh:targetClass ex:Cls1 ;
    sh:not [
        sh:class ex:Cls2 ;
        sh:property [
            sh:path ex:parent ;
            sh:qualifiedValueShape [
                sh:or ( [ sh:class ex:Cls3 ] [ sh:class ex:Cls4 ] [ sh:class ex:Cls5 ] ) ;
            ] ;
            sh:qualifiedMinCount 1 ;
        ) ;
        sh:path [ sh:alternativePath ( ex:prop1 ex:prop2 ex:prop3 ) ] ;  # ex:prop1|ex:prop2|ex:prop3
        sh:minCount 1 ;
    ]

(above I assume your rdf:type matches can be expressed using sh:class, i.e. subclasses also count).

I am not sure if the above represents your intention, but the mechanism that I have used was basically to match the pattern that you have in the WHERE clause and put a sh:not around it, meaning that a violation will be reported if the instance of Cls1 also matches the given pattern.

Holger


Thanks, Holger! I appreciate the help.

-- Scott

On Sep 3, 2021, at 8:06 PM, Holger Knublauch <[email protected]> wrote:



Hi Scott,

I may not fully understand your scenario, but I don't think this can be expressed in SHACL Core. The problem is not so much in the matching pattern (with the types etc) but in the subPropertyOf link. The last line would need to become something with sh:qualifiedMinCount 1 but you would need a sh:path and the sh:path cannot be computed dynamically, i.e. you cannot use a variable that gets computed using subPropertyOf. It would only work if you can know the sub-properties in advance, when you write the constraint.

You have it formulated in SPARQL already, so why not stay in SHACL-SPARQL? Does your target platform only support SHACL Core?

Holger


On 2021-09-03 4:01 pm, Scott Henninger wrote:
Another SHACL question for the topbraid-users group:

This one is a bit hard to explain, but the general idea is to create a shape that requires two target classes, and the hierarchical parent must be one of three classes, and the target cannot have any properties are a sub-property of a property.

Working it out a bit I believe the following is the equivalent query in SPARQL:

SELECT *
WHERE {
   $this a ex:Cls1, ex:Cls2  .
   { $this ex:parent/rdf:type ex:Cls3 . }
   UNION
   { $this ex:parent/rdf:type ex:Cls4 . }
   UNION
   { $this ex:parent/rdf:type ex:Cls5. }
   ?prop rdfs:subPropertyOf ex:assoc .
   $this ?prop ?x
}

Any $this found by this query would be a violation, based on the last triple pattern - i.e. the rest are requirements,that are taken up by other shapes.  But what I want here is to report if the target class combination, with appropriate parents, has one of the ex:assoc sub-properties.  To paraphrase: "Instances of Cls1 and Cls2 ... cannot have any ex:assoc properties.

Any hints or direction on this would be useful.  I've tried a few things but have so far failed to make much headway.

Appreciate it and TIA.
-- Scott
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