Hi, Irene explained the approach and rationale in a response to this forum at 7.1 Beta release:
*As stated in the release notes, running EDG within TBC was never exactly the same as running EDG server. Supporting this mode complicated certain aspects of our codebase and still was not 100% the same. We decided to simplify the code in order to provide more reliable, maintainable and better optimized software for our customers. For example, EDG Studio does not have any Eclipse in it and it does not use Jetty.* *At the same time, for users who are only interested in TBC having EDG in TBC delivered no value and, instead, created some inconveniences for them e.g., slow start up due to the need to initialize the server.* *So, after careful consideration we decided to separate the two tools. It is a change and changes can take getting used to. However, we believe it is a change for the better and we do not intend it to leave any current or prospective customers in the dark. Functionally, the same options exists with 7.1 and we are actually considering what else we could offer to the community.* *2. Some users were using it in order to explore and evaluate EDG prior to the purchase which, as you say, requires a more significant commitment than TBC. This need could be addressed by requesting an evaluation server from TopQuadrant. It is true that this would be for a limited period e.g., a month or two. However, this approach is not unique to TQ. It is pretty much industry standard. Beyond the beta, there is no technical reason why we could not license TopBraid EDG Studio to users who do not have EDG. We have not made this option available at the time of 7.1 beta because we are still considering what would work best for our user community and for TQ. We also are looking at other alternatives that may be better aligned with our move towards SaaS e.g., offering a hosted “Community Edition” of EDG that would have more limited features. In the meantime, we appreciate users input on what they would prefer and why.* WRT Irene's request for alternatives, preferences and suggestions going forward, best to not think that creating a parallel EDG codebase for Composer again is a viable option. If some of the rationale for your needs involve projects/contracts that are not public knowledge, probably best relay those ideas by contacting TQ staff with whom you are already familiar directly to have a more private conversation. Cheers, David On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 9:32 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users <[email protected]> wrote: > I very much support this comment. > I hope TQ comes with a solution soon... > Michel > > > Op 4 feb. 2022 22:55 schreef Tim Smith <[email protected]>: > > The bummer part of this product architecture change is now it is > impossible to utilize the excellent model driven application capabilities > that have always been a part of TBC without buying EDG server. I like the > EDG environment but I dont necessarily need the data governance > capabilities (e.g the ontologies). Having a TBL-like version (personal > and/or server) would suit a lot of my needs. > > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 4:18 PM Holger Knublauch <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I don’t think so, and as of 7.1 TBC is no longer the recommended IDE for > developing EDG extensions and features. .swp files are not widely used and > may at some stage get deprecated too. I have no insights on how many > customers actually use them. Do you have many such files? > > Moving forward, with scripting tasks, did you look at JavaScript/ADS? This > is our suggested long-term suggestion for many scripting tasks. > > Holger > > > On 4 Feb 2022, at 11:42 pm, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > Whenever the SPARQL Web Pages File(.swp) is changed then the > Composer IDE(TopBraid Maestro Edition 7.0.3 (20210703-1923).) needs to be > restarted for getting the code changes reflected. I tried the System -> > Refresh TopBraid system registries (SPIN etc) option but no difference. I > observed that the changes to RDF/SWP file(.ui.ttlx) reflect without any > refresh/restart. 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