RDF-star is still under development. In fact I just looked at the W3C mailing list of the WG that is supposed to standardize RDF-star. At this stage I find it too early to commit to something that may evolve further. It wouldn't be the first time that a WG comes up with some weird compromise solution that makes nobody happy in the end. We have solved the practical use cases with our URI-based reification approach and many customers are using it to get work done. That's good enough for me. There would be significant investment cost for us if we want to support the implementation from Jena because it introduces a completely new node type that would need to be handled, gracefully, in all of our algorithms.
You can see the actual triples when you export to vanilla Turtle, if you're interested in the implementation details. Holger > On 17 Mar 2023, at 10:59 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thx, very helpful!! > > And interesting approach to just model the reification in a shacl/dash way > via meta/provenance shapes. > > I am only wondering: how does the actual data now look like (like in the > Bob/age example stated by Claire)? > (it now only shows the system interface) > > In case in future the second red is satisfied, would you also going to > support it (i.e. do the first red). > RDF* has the following characteristics: > > defines convenient and compact syntaxes for Turtle and SPARQL > SPARQL* makes it possible to find all refied statements based on individual > subjects, predicates or objects > requires a low-level extension to the RDF data model, and corresponding > changes to graph implementations, APIs and tools > not standardized although some implementations exist, with more being > announced > > > Thx a lot > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Holger Knublauch > Sent: vrijdag 17 maart 2023 11:46 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] star > > For general Jena/TDB questions, please ask the jena-users mailing list. > > In TopBraid we do not support the ongoing RDF-star implementation of Jena but > instead use https://datashapes.org/reification.html > > You can see the supported shorthand syntax in the Source Code panel when you > for example reify sh:minCount constraints. > > Holger > > > > On 17 Mar 2023, at 9:13 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > Before I start reformulating/simplifying some of my ontologies (including > objectifications of values to attach meta-data) to rdf-star… > > Would TDB support code like: > > EXAMPLE 9 > <https://w3c.github.io/rdf-star/cg-spec/editors_draft.html#example-9> > :a :name "Alice" {| :statedBy :bob ; :recorded "2021-07-07"^^xsd:date |} . > is the same set of triples as: > > EXAMPLE 10 > <https://w3c.github.io/rdf-star/cg-spec/editors_draft.html#example-10> > << :a :name "Alice" >> :statedBy :bob . > << :a :name "Alice" >> :recorded "2021-07-07"^^xsd:date . > :a :name "Alice" > > > Small one in case the answer is yes: > > Would a meta-property get the domain rdf-star:Triple > (can’t find an example anywhere…) > > Thx Michel > > > > Michel Böhms > Data Scientist > Digital Built Environment (DBE) > > Mobile +31 630381220 > E-mail [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Location <https://nextdelft.com/> > > > <image001.gif> <http://www.tno.nl/> > This message may contain information that is not intended for you. 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