#27495: Tor Browser 8.0 wrong user-agent --------------------------------------+--------------------------- Reporter: temp123 | Owner: tbb-team Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: Medium | Milestone: Component: Applications/Tor Browser | Version: Severity: Normal | Resolution: duplicate Keywords: | Actual Points: Parent ID: | Points: Reviewer: | Sponsor: --------------------------------------+---------------------------
Comment (by cypherpunks3): Replying to [comment:2 arma]: > (I hear from the tor browser devs that they are no longer trying to lie about user agent, (a) because you can't actually convincing lie, 1) Not everyone does OS detection with JS, so the trackers who use the UA only (i.e. without JS detection) are duped, 2) with JS disabled there's no reliable way to tell exactly the OS (except some CSS bugs from now and then), > because there are so many other components that would have to change too, 3) these elements can be changed too in the long term (search for a keyword that sounds like tbb-fingerprinting-os or something). We can have fantastic dreams, right? > and (b) because when Android enters the scene, they won't want to get served the non-mobile version of pages. Mobile vs desktop distinction is justifiable, and it entails nothing for the case we're dealing with here. Replying to [comment:4 gk]: > Not only is it more than confusing to get always a random .exe file offered for download even though you are not on Windows but things like Google apps were actually broken for macOS users (see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1405810) This is kinda ironic considering that logging into your Google account to use Google Docs with Tor is straight-up *impossible* unless one does the SMS verification - or partial de-anonymization to put it in another fashion (except for the folks who buy SMS boxes with Bitcoin). So we're doing trading-off a situation that only a very limited number of Mac OS (marketshare is low) *and* Tor users encounter for the global Tor populace (the reports come from a standard Firefox for a reason)? This is even more ironic considering the amount of voluntary breakage that Google makes on its websites and services for the standard Firefox and Firefox Mobile, let alone the Tor Browser (recent examples in mind: YouTube uses an old standard not implemented in Firefox which leads to 5-10sec of delay on Firefox vs Chrome, the Google search looked different for Firefox Mobile vs Chrome Mobile and would change with a simple UA change to Chrome Mobile's UA). In other words trading privacy for hostile Google's usability shouldn't be even on our imagination. -- Ticket URL: <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27495#comment:5> Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki <https://trac.torproject.org/> The Tor Project: anonymity online
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