Hey everyone!

Here are our meeting logs:

http://meetbot.debian.net/tor-meeting/2024/tor-meeting.2024-08-29-16.00.html

And our meeting pad:

Anti-censorship
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Next meeting: Thursday, September 5 16:00 UTC
Facilitator: onyinyang
^^^(See Facilitator Queue at tail)

Weekly meetings, every Thursday at 16:00 UTC, in #tor-meeting at OFTC
(channel is logged while meetings are in progress)

This week's Facilitator: meskio

== Goal of this meeting ==

Weekly check-in about the status of anti-censorship work at Tor.
Coordinate collaboration between people/teams on anti-censorship at the Tor 
Project and Tor community.


== Links to Useful documents ==
        * Our anti-censorship roadmap:
                * 
Roadmap:https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/boards
        * The anti-censorship team's wiki page:
                * 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/wikis/home
        * Past meeting notes can be found at:
                * https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-project/
        * Tickets that need reviews: from projects, we are working on:
                * All needs review tickets:
                        * 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/merge_requests?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&assignee_id=None
                * Project 158 <-- meskio working on it
                        * 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/groups/tpo/anti-censorship/-/issues/?label_name%5B%5D=Project%20158


== Announcements ==

        * 

== Discussion ==

        * what to do with moat bridges once we turn off BridgeDB?
                * The plan is to switch off BridgeDB on 2024-09-09.
                * Currently, moat bridges are reserved exclusively for moat. 
When rdsys stops distributing moat bridges, those bridges will get no new 
users. They will only have the users that already knew about them. (The 
"request bridge" button in Tor Browser uses moat, after the switch the button 
will get bridges from circumvention settings instead.)
                * meskio will configure rdsys so new bridges are not assigned 
to that distributor
                * meskio will monitor the usage of moat bridges to decide when 
to move them somewhere
                * During the transition period, the request bridge button will 
display a captcha (because Tor Browser is expecting one), but it will be a 
placeholder captcha: 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/rdsys/-/issues/182 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/rdsys/-/blob/617c6ced3900e2bbe462605a6f68aaebba6e0582/pkg/presentation/distributors/moat/captcha.jpg
        
== Actions ==


== Interesting links ==


== Reading group ==
        * We will discuss "SpotProxy: Rediscovering the Cloud for Censorship 
Circumvention " on September 12
                * https://www.cs-pk.com/sec24-spotproxy-final.pdf
                * https://censorbib.nymity.ch/#Kon2024b
                * Questions to ask and goals to have:
                        * What aspects of the paper are questionable?
                        * Are there immediate actions we can take based on this 
work?
                        * Are there long-term actions we can take based on this 
work?
                        * Is there future work that we want to call out in 
hopes that others will pick it up?


== Updates ==
Name:
                This week:
                        - What you worked on this week.
                Next week:
                        - What you are planning to work on next week.
                Help with:
                        - Something you need help with.

cecylia (cohosh): 2024-08-29
        Last week:
            - went through massive todo backlog
            - dealt with breaking changes in KCP library
            - answered a bunch of Lox questions for integration work
            - cleared out review backlog
        This week:
            - take a look at snowflake web and webext translations and best 
practices
            - make changes to Lox encrypted bridge table
                - 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/lox/-/merge_requests/147
        Needs help with:

dcf: 2024-08-29
        Last week:
                - reinitialized new snowflake broker VM 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349#note_3067606
                - made minor revisions to snowflake broker installation guide 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/team/-/wikis/Survival-Guides/Snowflake-Broker-Installation-Guide?version_id=e9a301b92a02d92abe2c883a7f72dd1a2630a60c
        Next week:
                - archive snowflake webextension v0.9.0 (manifest V3)
                - open issue to have snowflake-client log whenever KCPInErrors 
is nonzero 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40262#note_2886018
                        - parent: 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40267
                - open issue to disable /debug endpoint on snowflake broker
                - move snowflake-02 to new VM
Help with:
                - tell me when to restart the brokers for 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349

meskio: 2023-08-29
    Last week:
        - don't distribute blocked-in bridges in moat and https (rdsys#204)
        - plan switch from BridgeDB to rdsys (rdsys#218)
    Next week:
        - add ipversion subscription to rdsys
        - be ready for the BridgeDB switch



Shelikhoo: 2024-08-29
    Last Week:
            - Chrome Manifest V3 transition: 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake-webext/-/issues/29#note_3035763
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake-webext/-/merge_requests/79
        - Release Manifest V3
            - Merge request reviews
    Next Week/TODO:
        - Merge request reviews
        - snowflake broker update/reinstall:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/issues/40349#note_3026336

onyinyang: 2023-08-29
        Last week(s):
                - continued with key rotation integration work
                - collected issues and TODOs for all Lox work that needs to be 
done before deployment
                
        Next week:
                - finish up key rotation integration work
                - add pref to handle timing for pubkey checks in Tor browser
                - update lox protocols to return duplicate responses for an 
already seen request 
                - add trusted invitation logic to tor browser integration:
                        
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/42974
                - Work on outstanding milestone issues: 
                        in particular: 
https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/lox/-/issues/69
                        - key rotation automation
                        
                Later:
                - begin implementing some preliminary user feedback mechanism 
to identify bridge blocking based on Vecna's work
                - improve metrics collection/think about how to show Lox is 
working/valuable
                - sketch out Lox blog post/usage notes for forum
                
        (long term things were discussed at the meeting!): 
https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ac-community-azaleas-room-keep
                - brainstorming grouping strategies for Lox buckets (of 
bridges) and gathering context on how types of bridges are distributed/use in 
practice
                        Question: What makes a bridge usable for a given user, 
and how can we encode that to best ensure we're getting the most appropriate 
resources to people?
                                1. Are there some obvious grouping strategies 
that we can already consider?
                                        e.g., by PT, by bandwidth (lower 
bandwidth bridges sacrificed to open-invitation buckets?), by locale (to be 
matched with a requesting user's geoip or something?)
                                2. Does it make sense to group 3 
bridges/bucket, so trusted users have access to 3 bridges (and untrusted users 
have access to 1)? More? Less?
                
theodorsm: 2024-08-22
                Last weeks:
                        - Expose hooks in pion/webrtc library
                Next weeks:
                        - Update Snowflake to use latest pion upstream releases 
(DTLS: v3 and WebRTC: beta v4)
                        - Test Snowflake fork with covert-dtls
                        - Condensing thesis into paper
                Help with:
                        - Feedback on thesis
                        
                        

Facilitator Queue:
                onyinyang shelikhoo meskio
1. First available staff in the Facilitator Queue will be the facilitator for 
the meeting
2. After facilitating the meeting, the facilitator will be moved to the tail of 
the queue


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