Hello everybody, Just to keep you informed - and to tell you that my case may probably now be considered as "solved"
-I decided to put a Reduced Exit Policy: if my ISP already transmitted to me 83 abuses notifications in 2 weeks without cutting down my servers, the few abuses notifications that will happen with Reduced Exit Policy will be OK. -I didn't have any answer by my ISP :( as if they absolutely don't care of nothing, or don’t have enough time. It sounds like I will never know their feeling about my exit nodes! With no hope of any clear agreement with my ISP, it will probably not be reasonable for me to put a Full Exit Policy on my servers without taking the risk to lose them soon or late. But to let Irdeto and IP-Echelon spams to win and trample on our common freedom is a little bit exasperating! My 2 "ArachnideFR35" servers will now probably come back to their previous bandwidth (12200KB/s and 3800KB/s) in the following days and weeks. (But with a little bit less available ports!) Thank you very much for all your mails and advices ;) Stay motivated! Best regards to all, Julien ROBIN ----- Mail original ----- De: "Martin Kepplinger" <[email protected]> À: [email protected] Envoyé: Mardi 19 Novembre 2013 12:57:50 Objet: Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, in 2 weeks, need your help [email protected]: > Hello krishna, > > I agree with you as I also think that the approach you describes (your ISP > transmit to you, almost "don't care" and just want you to do the job and copy > to them) is so much better :) and I really think my ISP is trying to work > like that. > > There was absolutely no remarks or whatever else in the mails they > transmitted to me. In their terms and conditions it's just written that they > have to be able to see the mail exchanges, so that they know when the problem > is solved. > > But there was so many messages they received during the last 3-day week end, > so many that they haven't been able to transmit all of them on the begining > of the week (there was a 3 day hole betwen November 7 and November 11 on the > mails they was transmitting to me on November 13. > And, they started to transmit me in the morning and in the evening it was > still not finished ! This last detail was the alarm signal for me, that's > when I realized that it was going straight into a pricipice. I also realized > that these abuse complaints weren't going to stop, even with my efforts by > sending mails to Irdeto and IP-Echelon. > > > > To keep you informed : > > I just sent to my ISP the mail as we said (sum-up) : > > - I'm ok if they calculate a more suitable price for my intensive use of > their services, > - I also explained them that Irdeto/IP-Echelon abuses can be ignored in my > case : the IP address on the reports are not the address of the responsible > user. These 2 companies just never stops to send an unconscionable amount of > email to put pressure, because sometimes, unfortunately, it works (and it's > bad when it works !) and they never read our answers. I told them that some > ISP already decided to blackhole these Irdeto/IP-Echelon notifications in a > similar case. > > > I will now be waiting for them to answer, but as I know them, I'm not > completely sure to have my answer, and in the better case, probably not > before Monday (11/18/2013). > > I'm re-starting my servers as only relays for this week end (to be sure that > no abuse complaint could flood my ISP, so they will be able to see my email > !) and if my ISP does not answer, Reduced Exit Policy will be my only > suitable solution. > > I will keep you informed! > Thank you again for all your help and remarks, and sorry when my answers are > very late (too large working days) > > > Best regards, > Julien ROBIN > thanks for posting. even if it's unfortunate for you that's encouraging to read. > ----- Mail original ----- > De: "krishna e bera" <[email protected]> > À: [email protected] > Envoyé: Jeudi 14 Novembre 2013 21:13:11 > Objet: Re: [tor-relays] Huge harrassment by Irdeto and IP-Echelon, 83 mails, > in 2 weeks, need your help > > I would prefer to receive a lot of such abuse complaints, forwarded > unfiltered, than to let the ISP cut off the relay. At least that way > they are passing on the responsibility closer to the source of the > problem (that they know of), rather than making decisions over which the > relay operator has no control. > The question is, are they giving you deadlines to handle all those > complaints? or is it entirely between you and the complainant? > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list [email protected] https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays _______________________________________________ tor-relays mailing list [email protected] https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
