On 2014-11-07 16:08, Kevin de Bie wrote:
>> With that in mind, he does raise a valid point. Are there any plans to move >> to a more decentralised model for the directory authorities? Are their any >> plans to move the power to blacklist nodes out of the hands of the Tor >> Project >> and into the hands of its users somehow. > > This is pretty interesting point, but then i'm personally not really > interested in having any control over the actual blacklist. I'd feel plenty > comfortable with just insight into what is blacklisted, for what reason and > if possible some evidence to support this reason. Giving control to "the > people" isn't always a good thing either as even in TOR circles there'd be > people that can't deal with having power on any level. Transparency is > probably the word I was looking for to use. > I didn't fill in contact information on my fresh tor relay simply because the > app I use doesn't allow me to. (my tor relay runs on an Ouya, therefore > android) Regardless of the absence of contact information the reason I run > the relay are in line with the reasons why TOR exists. > > 2014-11-07 22:35 GMT+01:00 Derric Atzrott <[email protected]>: > >>> How does one establish trust online though? Trust is a very delicate thing. >>> A >>> system such as this simply inherently has these challenges. Pretty sure that >>> is why the tor browser for example always uses https. >> >> Indeed, both the centralised and decentralised systems that are currently in >> place have major issues. Within centralised systems like the Certificate >> Authority system we see corruption (have you seen their fees) and we must >> trust them to actually verify identities and to remain secure, something >> at least a few CAs have proven that they can't do. Then we also have to >> trust our vendors to provide default lists of CAs to trust that are in >> fact worth of our trust. >> >> Within decentralised systems like PGP we have to worry about the network >> effect, and making sure that people understand what they are actually doing, >> again we worry about whether or not we can trust our friends, and whether or >> not we can trust their friends. >> >> Trust is probably one of the hardest problems facing folks using the >> Internet. >> >> With that in mind, he does raise a valid point. Are there any plans to move >> to a more decentralised model for the directory authorities? Are their any >> plans to move the power to blacklist nodes out of the hands of the Tor >> Project >> and into the hands of its users somehow. >> >> I'm not exactly sure how either of those would be accomplished, but I'm sure >> there is a clever solution somewhere. >> >> Thank you, >> Derric Atzrott >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-relays mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays [1] > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays [1] Trust can also be purchased indirectly. The operator you began trusting could hand over the keys for a price. Links: ------ [1] https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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