Can I get the list of those sites which are blocking tor traffic to view or edit their page? On 23 Apr 2015 17:30, <[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Subpoena received (Moritz Bartl) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:15:32 +0200 > From: Jan GUTH <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 20/04/15 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote: > > Hi > > I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena > > regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real > > IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't > > help them in identifying this person. Nevertheless I will give you the > > link to the full subpoena. Maybe you guys find it interesting. I will > > forward the subpoena to our lawyer as well. > > > > > > > https://mega.co.nz/#!ilIjlZSb!-deirKharWaDtp_UMxhev58E14zeouyoWUbzxeWPvEQ > > Good morning list, > > I just called up Alistar and explained the entire situation. They IT > guys know what Tor is and their company is strongly interested in > continuing supporting Tor. They are a partner company now of Voxility, > and the apparently while moving some clients, someone did forget to tell > them that they'll get a client running Tor exit nodes. > > They are simply overchallenged with this request as it is the very first > one they have ever received. > > The good news is, that they will _not_ shutdown our server, nor take any > logs, which are non-existant. The counterpart we need to contribute is a > letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other > bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do > not try to fool them. > > This is a request from the administration level of the company, not the > tech guys - as always. > > So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer & with EFF. Is there anyone else > within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of > and what not? Moritz? > > Cheers, > J. > > -- > Jan GUTH > International Coordinator > > Fr?nn vun der ?nn A.S.B.L. (NGO) > e. [email protected] (GPG: 0x02225522) > t. +352?691?71?77?44 > w. http://enn.lu/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:20:10 +0200 > From: Jan GUTH <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 20/04/15 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote: > > Hi > > I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena > > regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania. They want to know the real > > IP behind the Tor Network. I mailed them what Tor is and why I can't > > help them in identifying this person. Nevertheless I will give you the > > link to the full subpoena. Maybe you guys find it interesting. I will > > forward the subpoena to our lawyer as well. > > > > > > > https://mega.co.nz/#!ilIjlZSb!-deirKharWaDtp_UMxhev58E14zeouyoWUbzxeWPvEQ > > Good morning list, > > I just called up Alistar and explained the entire situation. They IT > guys know what Tor is and their company is strongly interested in > continuing supporting Tor. They are a partner company now of Voxility, > and the apparently while moving some clients, someone did forget to tell > them that they'll get a client running Tor exit nodes. > > They are simply overchallenged with this request as it is the very first > one they have ever received. > > The good news is, that they will _not_ shutdown our server, nor take any > logs, which are non-existant. The counterpart we need to contribute is a > letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other > bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do > not try to fool them. > > This is a request from the administration level of the company, not the > tech guys - as always. > > So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer & with EFF. Is there anyone else > within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of > and what not? Moritz? > > Cheers, > J. > > -- > Jan GUTH > International Coordinator > > Fr?nn vun der ?nn A.S.B.L. (NGO) > e. [email protected] (GPG: 0x02225522) > t. +352?691?71?77?44 > w. http://enn.lu/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:29:45 +0000 > From: Brian Kroll <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > > Zack Weinberg: > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Tyler Durden <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> I just wanted to let you know that Washington sent us a subpoena > >> regarding one of our exit nodes in Romania > > > > Just FYI, "Washington" doesn't appear to have anything to do with > > this. The subpoena is on the letterhead of an office of Cook > > County, Illinois, which is the locality containing the city of > > Chicago. Per > > http://www.cookcountyil.gov/office-of-the-independent-inspector-general/ > > > > > this office investigates misconduct by county officials. > > > > This matters because, first, this is probably a tiny little outfit > > with little or no clue about either the Internet or international > > law. > > As a resident of Cook Country I can safely say it's not a small > locality, but I'm sure their knowledge about international law is > quite low. > > > They *should have* hired an international lawyer when they saw > > they'd need to talk to someone operating out of Romania and/or > > Luxembourg, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that they > > didn't. > > > And they've probably never even heard of Tor before. > > I know the Chicago Police claim they don't know what Tor is. > > http://www.muckrock.com/foi/chicago-169/chicago-police-use-of-tor-15392/ > > > Second, the incident which triggered the investigation, whatever it > > is, is probably quite minor. (This is backed up by their asking > > for one IP address active at a single point in time.) It would > > have been booted up to the state or federal level if it were any > > kind of serious. For both those reasons, I would rate the odds of > > them actually bothering to jump through all the necessary legal > > hoops to get a court order binding on a foreign national as slim to > > none. > > > ATB > //Brian > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVOK1xAAoJEFjBjkteF9VaV2EP/3OrGZqHMdqWccR0Qkrt80rc > vw9RgIAtnhUfZVLlt8Y/RNhpSUOwrBf2gFxcc48zN3/Llad1ybF1PDFQym516ntK > RLRmGDf945qRxTsApXCN9WjRD0iMqyfQuq/NddTYKCMeMZadYW9MoUNe3md8wwKg > feeYNpCRmrTTh1Q7gRKYa4dRS6jLrNqNv5o/pL3jp5OlX8nLz+LyJxNVopZ2khAq > T4B51NOD0D5rLJ8cEQf528dmAM6QipUvtY3r5mVqb7VRO5NJuAxsRCnql6qTi68h > FIeLRZh44miY/vOS//dPlSFyb/h3ECVGCMH3ngtaJ5LLkAUXXWc8XYiEeDFyUrxg > O5/pUy9uo4ZRz9UXU7ZEpsttw2Gs1GDc7bRRrL4aHp8OGr+85p493aBqyixmr16d > Wz2lUdVioVBO5sj7rG+QXSc5b4Wp1/jKOWszKUNjX02AMnpe21idQrS0qn9kzSNP > Gsi8XyFP/08m+n2weTZ9W000uznjMCKWvWlOfJtTyo9oB23cZ7g/4Rs1j4wQR4W4 > 8/iuQFwjx3OipdxjzP4g3HwYLYeFT5DECVEzWtqx2LaIMI6ObTjDOnyO/PDIqzWA > YSK8hUqCKI6SqJE5l1kP4bzDsbQaY13nxoK0uVbW35h01FpHRIjyIXrFJorTqjrT > 8c3B2zNha+ogBOljvYtJ > =uUdm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:47:17 +0200 (CEST) > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > > > The counterpart we need to contribute is a > > letter by our lawyer and favorably a letter from EFF or some other > > bigger organization guaranteeing Tor is what it is and we as client do > > not try to fool them. > > as the US government sponsored (parts of) the Tor development - what about > giving them US military research papers about the Tor network? > > http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a465464.pdf is one of them, > co-authored by a Navy researcher and performed by the Naval Research > Laboratory. > > Not itself sufficient, but done by a bigger organisation w/o triggering > anarchist/commie/hacker/terroristsupporting/publicenemy bias reactions. > > Renke > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 07:39:07 -0400 > From: [email protected] > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Quantum Insert detection for everyone > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > > On 04/23/2015 01:56 AM, David Stainton wrote: > > > It is possible to add a "prevention" mechanism to HoneyBadger; an > > event based firewall ruleset generator made to block TCP injection > > attacks as they are happening... yes. This is possible. I could > write > > that if there was interest from enough people. > > Gief. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:57:32 +0200 > From: Moritz Bartl <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Subpoena received > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 04/23/2015 10:20 AM, Jan GUTH wrote: > > So, I'll get in touch with our lawyer & with EFF. Is there anyone else > > within EU, whom could certify them what Tor is and what it is capable of > > and what not? Moritz? > > Depends on what convinces them. :-) Sounds like it may make sense to get > a generic letter signed by all our partner organizations (which includes > Reporters without Borders, Institute of War & Peace Reporting, > Article19, and potentially other Human Rights Orgs) in the long run. > > I'm happy to write something as Torservers.net, in a way representing > all the current partner orgs. Then, we can send the letter around and > get it co-signed by all the partner orgs and other orgs. > > -- > Moritz Bartl > https://www.torservers.net/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > > > ------------------------------ > > End of tor-relays Digest, Vol 51, Issue 27 > ****************************************** >
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