Just banish them from Tor already! They are ruining our network, they lie
about their network speeds, and they lie about their capabilities.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:37 PM teor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Conrad (and staff and operators),
>
> > On 28 Aug 2018, at 22:16, Conrad Rockenhaus <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Aug 27, 2018, at 8:02 PM, Jordan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...
> >>> The research in this paper (
> https://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/cache/DBLP:conf/ccs/EdmanS09.pdf) is
> becoming more relevent and is worth discussing as more ISPs come out with
> the goal of hosting lots and lots of exit relays.
> >>
> >> ...
> >> I have the utmost belief your intentions are good, but the
> concentration of exits under a non-advertised central control warrants
> conversation, at least.
> >>
> >> If the end goal is turning $ into relays, not all paths are paved with
> equal mind to security and it might be worth considering donation-backed
> alternatives.
> >
> > Actually, Jordan, I appreciate your input, but Greypony is technically
> operating as a nonprofit organization right now. We’re completing the
> paperwork to be considered an official nonprofit. We allow people to
> operate their own relay, on their own HVM instance (which we don’t have
> access to) for a donation of $15/month for a basic model A instance.
> >
> > They’re totally separately and independently operated relays. We don’t
> tell them how to operate their relays. We provide support, we provide
> suggestions, but we don’t operate it for them, we don’t install anything
> for them, and we’re completely hands off unless they need support with
> something. Our job is to provide the instance and the bandwidth.
>
> This is the 5th list post in the last few weeks describing Greypony IT's
> services, operators, or relays.
>
> There have also been several critical posts.
>
> Please take a break from promoting or criticising Greypony on this list
> until at least October 2018.
>
> If you feel the need to respond, please use another platform.
>
> Thanks
>
> T
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