> On 4 Sep 2018, at 21:57, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 11:20 Paul Templeton, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> But seriously - 
>> https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018
>> And -
>> https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/national-security/five-country-ministerial-2018
>> 
>> The thing that worries me is that this bill will probably go through and it 
>> can hoover up relay operators. That is they can force you to add/develop 
>> tools to eavesdrop on you.
> 
> 
> I remember reading about this a while ago. I don't have the links to the 
> articles on the device I am using however they mentioned three things:
> 
> 1). The organisation would need the skills and resources to bake in back 
> doors (e.g. knowledgeable people).

Good point.

Although most relay operators can set up packet dumps and debug logging.

> 2). Free speech - Can you make a programmer code (speak) something they do 
> not want to say. 

There is no general right to free speech under Australia law.
As far as I'm aware, there are no precedents that treat code as speech, either.

> 3). Assuming someone is willing to help - it may take one person years to do 
> as they have been asked, so during that time are they employed by the 
> government? Do they get assistance (e.g. mentoring or hardware) to do the 
> task?

The law specifically allows payments by the government.

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