Hi George,
dear all,

i can imagine a tor-setup-guide. I mean when you apt install tor you should 
have an command like tor-setup (or whatever) which starts an "gui" inside the 
terminal window and asks you some basic questions. For most people there are a 
few questions like "What do you want to run? A) Relay B) Bridge". Based on 
those questions/guides the torrc will be generated and the script configure the 
tor-user and data storage and what ever needs to be done afterwards.

I hope I explained myself well enough.
What do you think about it? I can imagine to help developing this setup-routine 
when winter arrived in Germany ;-)

Of course it will be for beginners because experienced people will manually 
edit the torrc.

Best regards from Germany
Max

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Von: tor-relays <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von George 
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2018 15:23
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Betreff: [tor-relays] Tor relays Workshop in FOSSCOMM


Greetings list,

a few days ago, Elias Papavasileiou did a "Setup your own Tor relay"
workshop in the Greek open source conference FOSSCOMM. I attended the workshop 
and helped out a bit.

During the workshop, a presentation was given describing how to setup a relay, 
and then we moved to hands-on, where we helped 3 groups of 2 people each setup 
a Tor bridge in their laptop. Even tho a laptop is definitely not the right 
platform for this, the idea was that if those people learned how to setup a Tor 
relay/bridge they could afterwards set it up themselves on proper hardware.

A few takeaways:

- Setting up a Tor relay is not easy even if it's just "apt-get tor, edit
  torrc, reload tor". There are various things that can go wrong in the
  between, and basically all groups asked for assistance even tho they all
  seemed experienced with Linux system administration.

- Example of fail: One group put a wrong line in their torrc (they tried to
  launch with a low-port ORPort of 443 even tho they were not root), then had
  trouble debugging what's going on, then wiped logs and ran Tor manually as
  root. Tor overwrote the log file, permission issues occured, and Tor could
  not start again. We had to manually figure this out and remove the bad log
  file for Tor to work again. That took a while.

- Example of fail: People kind of gave up reading all the comments in the
  Debian default torrc and asked us for assistance because they did not know
  what they had to do to make it work. aka what was necessary and what was
  optional.

- After about 45 mins all three groups managed to successfuly run a bridge.

I'm just mentioning these things here in case someone can relate and improve 
the situation. There might be a few things we can do (aka improve the default 
Debian torrc), or even provide images/docker/vagrant for relays. But I'm not 
good with these things so I can't really suggest things.

Cheers!

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